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Lord Flashheart said:
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Lord Flashheart said:
@MikeB U2 took two years because the had laid the ground work with U1.
A better comparison for development time would have been GT5 not a sequel.

You are as good as spin as Selnor but without the personality.

Uncharted 1 didn't take 5 years either though.  Jak 3 came out in '04, Jak X in '05, and Uncharted released in '07

Gears one didn't take five years neither did 2. Whats your point.

One 360 game did. Doesn't mean you can draw comparison with a game that didn't and say look how long that took.

Like I said compare it to GT5 not a sequel. Or God of War 3 how long did that take? Heavy Rain? maybe this is revenge for all the times 360 owners have ridiculed how long it takes a Ps3 game to come out but doesn't change the facts no matter how much you spin it.

Not sure why you keep bringing up other games.  MikeB was comparing Uncharted 2 and Alan Wake development times.  You argued that the comparison wasn't fair because Uncharted was a sequel.  When I mention that the first Uncharted took nowhere near 5 years you just bring up GT5 and Gears of War.

As for God of War 3, it came out 3 years after God of War 2.

So he can bring up other games to make unfair comparisons.

I understand.

I can't do the same or ask he uses a game with a comparable dev time?

I understand. I'm in the wrong.

MikeB didn't first bring up Uncharted 2, the article and Selnor did.  The development time tangent was somewhat odd, but your comment didn't make any more sense.  You complained that using a sequel was unfair, and yet ignored the original game.  Then you brought up Gears for no apparent reason.  Nobody said that every 360 game takes 5 years.  You might have had a point if Remedy had done Gears and Naughty Dog had done Gran Turismo 5.  The discussion was comparing the graphics of Uncharted 2 and Alan Wake, and thus the talent Naughty Dog and Remedy have with working on their respective systems.

You brought up Jak 3 and X so I bought up two games that didn't take long to release. Why did you bring them up?

Selnor never mentioned dev times for U2. MikeB did and it was out of place. If he wants to make comapirsons on dev times he should pick more comparable games. How is that difficult to understand? I didn't ignore the first one. I mentioned it in the first post? I don't have someone else who hasn't read the whole conversation have I? the discussion I was in was about dev times as started by MikeB so have a go at him?Who implied that every 360 game takes 5 years?

have you actually read the replies or just skimmed them? Again what is your point?

/exasterbated

Hmm, that's a tough one.  Maybe because we were talking about Uncharted and I was giving a timeline of Naughty Dog's releases before the first Uncharted game came out?

The only thing you mentioned about Uncharted 1 was that Uncharted 2 benefited due to work put into the first game.  Then you disregarded it as an example of development time for a game that wasn't a sequel.  You acted as if the only reason there was a two year development time was because it was a sequel, and then brought up Gears of War, GT5, and God of War when I commented that the first Uncharted was developed in a similar amount of time.

Are you reading the posts?  I said that his development time tangent was odd, but it still stemmed from the original comparison between Alan Wake and Uncharted 2.  You brought up Gears of War as an example of a 360 game that didn't take 5 years, so clearly you felt you had to assault some notion that 360 games all took 5 years.