UK General Election, Election Day and Results Thread

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kowenicki said:

SciFiBoy said:

same as with the national result, I think we should have PR, if you look at the vote share, a co-allition between the Conservatives and Lib Dems or Labour and the Lib Dems would be more democratic and representative of the public will. (only a co-allition would represent 50% of the electorate)

I wish someone could explain how it is MORE democratic.

Which policy concession do you expect the Liberals to demand from the Tories? 

Whichever concession they get, the bottom line is that only 23% of the elctorate voted for the Lib Dems... so 77% will get a policy forced on them they didnt want or vote for by a minority party?  And that is MORE democratic...? 

See, that is one of the issues with democracy. If you go with a straightly proportional democracy (to where the % only determines the outcome), then it will note represent the constituents at all.

So lets say it did go by percentage alone - where do you put these MPs to represent the people? If the LD's got 25% of the vote, then where do you put their 25% of MPs at to represent the people? The answer is that they'd wind up representing people that simply did not elect them. You would put MPs in areas that did not vote for them. Eventually, this would drastically effect the outcome of elections as those in power would shape the constituencies to those in power more grossly than it does today.

That is why you need a representative form of government - so people can actually vote for someone to represent them. If its proportional, it defeats that entirely, because the people of England voted to ensure that they had 2XX representatives of the major parties represent them. If the LDs are unsatisfied with this, then they should simply get more people to vote for them in the right districts.