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thismeintiel on 05 May 2010
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Gnac said:
thismeintiel said:

Thanks to the Nintendo fans for proving my point for me.

"Of course, Nintendo fans who want to get on a soapbox about this will completely try to justify this:"

    

@ Gnac

The N64 stick was digital, not analog.  Not that it truly matters, but it's good to have all the info when you are going to claim someone is "copying" (not sure if you have claimed they copied, but many ignorant people have).  And I'll definitely concede on the fact that Sony drew inspiration from the SNES controller, and then improved upon it.  I don't think they changed the design of the Dual Shock largely because if it ain't broke, don't fix it.  I find the Dual Shock to be a perfect fit in my hand, and I also prefer the alligned analog sticks.  I guess Capcom did, too.  They must know a good design when they see one.  And I'm guessing most people do, as you can see the inspiration from it in most controls since it's release.

Like I said before, they all do it.  So people just need to inform themselves and quit whining.

Can you verify this? It seems that it at least had the precision expected of today's analogue inputs, and that should not be disregarded. The main reason I responded to this post was regarding the issue of the form factor of the controllers, which highlights their purpose. I haven't commented on the form factor of the Move (in this thread or others), because I believe that only so much can be done with regards to ergonomics when trying to achieve a certain purpose.

The other reason I even bother to comment in threads like this is because people are so pedantic. The slightest tweak allegedly makes the world of difference, but in the greater scheme of things, it does not. There are so many factors to consider, that we cannot isolate one as a barometer of success.

EDITed to address the awful attitude of the poster I replied to

Don't exactly see how I had such a bad attitude, but ok, lol.  BTW here's your proof:  http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=3&cId=3143627

@ Nick

You can twist words all you want, but in the end the N64's controller was still not analog.  Though, it's design did allow for greater control compared to a normal D-pad.  It just wasn't as accurate as the potentiometer based analog sticks used in Sony's Dual Analog Flight Stick (April '96), Dual Analog (April '97) and DualShock (May '98).  This is probably why Nintendo switched their tech for the stick on the Gamecube controller, as well as adding a second stick ala the DualShock.

Of course, we could all just shut up about who copied who and give the credit to the Atari 5200 and the Vectrex (both Nov. '82), as they were the first consoles to feature an analog stick.  And even though analog was mostly abandoned after those consoles were discontinued until '95 when Sony started development of their Flight Stick, they were still the very first.