Kasz216 said:
joeorc said:
Kasz216 said:
joeorc said:
Kasz216 said:
Icyedge said:
Kasz216 said:
As someone who pretty much never has his computer hooked up online, I can tell you... EVERY game has Sony's firmware on it... and there has NEVER been a special version of firmware.
It's just a matter of if the games being printed now have gotten the newer 2.21 or higher firmware yet to put on the disc. The burden of proof is on you to show that for some reason Sony is going to act differently then they always have, with no given word from Sony that such a thing would occur.
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All im saying since the start is: lets wait first that they actually do release disc games that force you to remove linux. Im not affirming anything. What should I prove? Its not me that is making assumption.
Between, I guess your right theres an update on every disc. But the question is, will they use an update that remove Linux on all their disc base games. Im not sure they will, you seem to be sure they will, so all im saying is we need to wait first and than do the proper conclusion. Since im suspending my judgment what could I prove? Im not affirming they will or they will not, im just saying we should wait that it happen first.
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You are argueing that we shouldn't rush to judgement... on something that's been true 100% of the time.
Basically your arguement is.... "While the sun has shone every day... we shouldn't rush to judgement and wait till tommorrow to see if the sun rises again."
This is a wholey illogical assumption.
Either way, note the Sony reply from my customer service query. New games from Sony, even normal ones WILL require 3.21 or higher.
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they said in their response :
"Thank you for writing us with your concerns about the 3.21 system software update. Please be advised that it is up to the individual game publishers as to whether or not a particular game will require the 3.21 update or a later update in order to play on your PlayStation(R)3 computer entertainment system. Therefore, we are unable to provide a definitive answer to your question. However, it would be prudent to assume that any game released after the 3.21 update may require this update, and therefore may not play on your PlayStation 3 console should you choose not to update your system software."
that is not the same thing as :
"Will Require"
though with this statement:
However, it would be prudent to assume that any game released after the 3.21.
the law of prudence:
example:
"No other protection is wanting, provided you are under the guidance of prudence."
—— Juvenal (60-140).
Altruist follows the Prudent Investor Rule. The Prudent Investor Rule is a legal doctrine which provides guidance to investment managers regarding the standards for managing an investment portfolio in a legally satisfactory manner.
Basically, prudent investing amounts to a process which one follows. If the process followed in making investment decisions is prudent (based on what is known and not known at that time), then the decisions being made are prudent, regardless of subsequent results. Example: It would be imprudent to "invest" one's money in a lottery. The relative prudence of the decision isn't affected by the fact that the investor may have subsequently won the lottery. If she won the lottery, then she got lucky and had a spectacularly good result despite a spectacularly imprudent "investing" decision. But winning the lottery doesn't justify the imprudence of playing the lottery in the first place. Indeed, while we'd all like to win the lottery, it simply isn't prudent to try to do so.
so you may have to ask yourself what would a prudent man do in this situation. wait to see or update right away?
since you can update at anytime, the person that responded to your Question gave you
"Therefore, we are unable to provide a definitive answer to your question"
because the person did not know the answer and was not sure, but did give you as far as they can tell that it "MAY REQUIRE" and you should take prudence.
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You missed the point. I asked "will ALL games after a certain point of time require the update."
Simply put... if sony themselves were planning to still support people who didn't update to other OS. The answer is simple. No.
Therefore, Sony does NOT plan to do this. Whether or not all will is based on what the other developers do... this is why they can't provide a definitive answer. If they themselves were to support this. They could provide a definitive answer.
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that's not what they stated: you aew trying to gather the answer out of something that that person does not know the answer themselves. you may even gather a seperate response from someone else.
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Actually... that IS what they stated.
A) They stated they couldn't answer my question because it was up to the individaul publisher. This is why they couldn't inform me.
B) Sony is infact... a game publisher.
C) Therefore if they were planning to support it... they COULD answer my question.
I didn't ask all. I asked any. In otherwords... any sony backing of it would mean they could answer my question. The fact that they aren't even sure... is just a further proof though that they didn't consider new games as relevent for Other OS people however when they removed Other OS. So even if you were right, (which you aren't) you'd be wrong.
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you asked one person at Sony
this is what they stated:
"Thank you for writing us with your concerns about the 3.21 system software update. Please be advised that it is up to the individual game publishers as to whether or not a particular game will require the 3.21 update or a later update in order to play on your PlayStation(R)3 computer entertainment system. Therefore, we are unable to provide a definitive answer to your question. However, it would be prudent to assume that any game released after the 3.21 update may require this update, and therefore may not play on your PlayStation 3 console should you choose not to update your system software."
though you would like them to state this:
"Thank you for writing us with your concerns about the 3.21 system software update. Please be advised that it is up to the individual game publishers as to whether or not a particular game will require the 3.21 update or a later update in order to play on your PlayStation(R)3 computer entertainment system. Therefore, we are unable to provide a definitive answer to your question. However, it would be prudent to assume that any game released after the 3.21 update Wii require this update, and therefore may not play on your PlayStation 3 console should you choose not to update your system software."
see what i did there it changes the whole meaning of that Claim!
because if it stated Will than that would be in conflict with this statement:
"Therefore, we are unable to provide a definitive answer to your question"
they gave you their Answer:
MAY require is not the same as Will require
no matter how you try to say it's the same meaning it's not.