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i do agree with you on your reply jarrod ........ microsoft did say that they got some surprises in store for in japan like the new ads that showed mhfo and the three others unnanouced titles and natal and microsoft did say they plan on having the 360 a 10 year plan and a day more then the ps3 so that why i think 2.5 million is a resonable number which it being goin on the 5th year of the console