highwaystar101 said:
Yeah, sorry I didn't reply to you while I was at the pub with my mates. Next time I'll take my computer. I have a life you know. And I didn't try to fix my analogy, you tried to poke a hole in it that wasn't there. To be honest at this point I would of assumed that as we used the "full house" metaphor for all of them it kind of goes without saying. You do it again with "I don't know why you keep bringing black people into it when it is aimed at any race that isn't British", the problem isn't there; you've missed the whole point of that that he's RECENTLY MARRIED into your family, in other words he is a member, but only a new one. That's exactly what Griffin wants to do, he wants to take people who are only second or third generation British and ask them to leave. Don't like the race card? ok then, let's drop the black part. Obviously you don't want it because as you said it's pointed at "any race that isn't British" (which does not make it better by a long shot), we can replace the "black" part quite happily with "Man of non indigenous British origin". And again, you seem to think that the fact that people have a choice justifies asking them to leave. It's not ok to base a policy on such a racist foundation. It's not ok to single out a group of people based on their lineage. It's not ok to ask people to leave because their family has roots in another country when they consider themselves British. The link can be found some way down first page (and also my rebuttal), it's the interview on Radio 4. The woman interviewing him asks him about statistics he uses at 3:30, which essentially comes down to all people who are non indigenous British. The plan to pay said people to leave comes at 4:30 and is a further development of the discussion on which people he defines. You can also find it on the BNP policy pages. Essentially it is "These are the types of British people I don't consider British, people with non long British lineage", "I will offer these people somewhere in the region of £50,000 to leave" |
So your saying I'm racist and I don't have a life because your getting annoyed at me now? No I don't mind the race card, I just don't know why you kept bringing black people into this when it applied to much more races, and since when did i say it was any better? I just pointed out your fasination for defending just black people and no other race. do you have a problem with other races?
I'm not agreeing that what Nick griffin said was right if thats why your getting your pants in a twist, but I will defend the BNP or any other party/person/man/woman when something they say is taken out of context and blown way out of proportion
You even said so yourself "He doesn't say "none white" at 4:30 when he is talking about the long term resettlement plan, that part comes just before. If you listen from 3:30 she picks him up on the statistics he uses and shows he means none-white British, so essentially people of foreign lineage".
So your thread has a misleading title, to bring attention and help spread hatred for the BNP (which im still not deffending, but i can see what your doing)
you also said
Black Briton = Offered free money for leaving.
White Briton = Not offered free money for leaving. Theres just another one of your black and white things,
where are the other races? again the obsession of mentioning how the bnp do not like black people but no other race :S i dont get it Do you agree with him doing it to other races?
Also when you said, "50k per year" when it was just straight up 50k
Tombi123 "300 years ago my family was French. I'd quite happily take £50,000 to go and live in the south of France. Maybe I should vote BNP afterall.."
samualrsmith "That's a brilliant policy in the middle of a recession, with a huge, and growing, Government deficit - pay our work force £50k per person to leave! Fantastic"
this guy has no idea what he is talking about! how much does he think it cost per year to home feed give benifits, look after on the NHS "year after year"
Khuurtra said
"So you contend that the phrase "Britain would be better off if it were only composed of ethnic Britons" is not racist?"
carl2291 said
Nope. But then again, he never said that... So yaknow.
Another stupid coment where its been taken out of context to suit blackening a name, and nicely pointed out by carl
| highwaystar101 said: So who's telling you? Bradford council or it's residents? If it was the council you have the right to be outraged, if you are being told by the residents then they have no right to tell you that you can't. Even if it means you get beaten up, you are still allowed to celebrate St. Georges day, and if you do get beaten up then those who did it will be arrested for breaking the law. |
carll2291
Well, the pubs weren't allowed to open on the day due to risk of "upsetting certain groups".
So i'm guessing it was the council.
Highwaystar
So? I'm an Aston Villa fan, when we play Birmingham City most pubs that attract football fans in Birmingham are closed to decrease the risk of violence, they are not telling us that we can't celebrate a victory.
It's a sensible pre-caution and it's the same deal with this case. No-one has said you can't celebrate. Is one pub closed? Then go to one that's open. You are given every right to celebrate St. Georges, the council have not said that you as an individual can't.
Heres what you said that really pissed me off, First you ask him who told him he cant celebrate and if its the coucil he has the right to be outraged, then you say he cant be outraged and defend the dessicion by comparing angry footballers to islam in bradford (which by the way i thought was quite rasict you telling carl to go somewhere else to go for a drink to celebrate, its the sort of attitude in the 50s when black people wernt aloud in certain bars and told to go somewhere else in case they offend the locals)
makingmusic476- another silly coment blow out of proportion
I'm a descendant of like 6-7 different nationalities. If I lived in Britain, would the BNP want me to leave because I'm only like an 8th British? And I'm a quarter Irish. Wonder how they'd feel about that!
so yeah im NOT defending what he said AT ALL if thats what you where thinking, I just hate things when they are blown out of proportion YES IT IS BAD WHAT HE SAID but don't twist his words to make it sound any worse than it was and get others involved "with misleading titles and quotes" (as seen above)
