How will FF be "revived" in Japan? since FF13 flopped there...

[Kenryoku_Maxis]

dib8rman said:

@Kenryoku_Maxis

 

Your only problem is you can't see beyond your own point, you've twisted my words to make sense with your logic and until you stop that you can not see the fundamental axiom of my post, do not try to respond to it any further; your wasting your text.

OOOOkkkkkayy....Well at least you got one part right.

Maybe you should listen to what everyone else is saying in this thread, as they are saying the same thing I said.

c0rd said:

Hyruken said:
You have to understand the current Japanese market. It has been in decline for sometime now. Last years sales were down a lot from the previous year.

This year has pretty much continued that trend.

Last week a total of 117k units were sold. Compared to 168k for the same week the previous year. And compared to 183k for the same week 2 years ago.

This generation probably peaked 2 years agon in Japan and since that time numbers have fallen far. Even the PS3 is heavily down. Last week it sold 25k, the same week last year it sold 60k+.

Square Enix are just doing what other Japanese games companies are having to do which is think about how to continue to make money in the current climate. To do this means they have to appeal more to western gamers to bridge the gap from the falling Japanese numbers.

FFXIII did bad in Japan in comparison to other FF games but in comparison to other japanese releases of the past few years it has done very well. That is the only way you can compare them. The landscape has changed.

I don't know about that. You're talking about hardware, we're mainly talking about the sales of individual games in a series. There are many series that haven't taken this turn - take Dragon Quest, for example. (taken from here)

DQ1 - 1,500,000
DQ2 - 2,410,000
DQ3 - 3,770,000
DQ4 - 3,040,000
DQ5 - 2,790,000 (SNES)
DQ6 - 3,190,000
DQ7 - 3,893,293 (PS1)
DQ8 - 3,538,860 (PS2)
DQ9 - 4,020,000+ (DS)

That series has managed to maintain its popularity after all these years.

I'd say the main problem for FFXIII in particular (as opposed to the PS2 games) is how the userbase is split between 4 consoles this gen. Not everyone can afford having a DS, Wii, PSP, and PS3. There are probably many people who would have bought FFXIII had it been on a console they owned, but decided to skip out this round (or find some other way to play the game).

The series does have other problems, as seen by its consistent decline since the PS1 games, though I can't really say I know the best way to fix it. It peaked on the PS1, so the remedy should be somewhere in FF5-FF8.

You've hit on the major problem.  The series is over stagnated.  Even in the PSX days, people were saying there was too many FF titles coming out, and that was only when there was 3 main games and 1-2 side games/remakes coming out each year.  Now we have anywhere from 10+ 'Final Fantasy' games coming out each year, over every conceivable system.  Even the most staunch Final Fantasy fan can't keep up between all the FFVII sequels, the FF remakes on DS and PSP, the side games on Wii, Dissidia and Durge of Cerberus, FF online and the 'main' games.  When it all comes down to it, FFXIII biggest problem, aside from being on PS3 (the price tag), is probably people are losing interest in Final Fantasy.  Between FFXII and FFXIII, they had a chance to play over 40+ FF games.  Many of them probably did, and that's going to make FFXIII less 'magical'.