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joeorc said:
bowspearer said:
Random Canadian said:
dude Australia is not the whole fucking world, you are being worse then Americans who think American sales > world.

You keep calling people ignorant but you are just showing that you are the ignorant one by not accepting the fact that in other parts of the world when you agree to something you are boned.

Plus this thread was about (non-existant) custom FW not your personal quest to fill the internets with crying. BTW how about you post something about how you have linux installed and cant go on PSN because you will lose your OOS/linux install.

Probably fucking not.

Actually the only one making that ASSumption here is you. Had you bothered to read you would have noticed that the previous poster was referring to my specific case. When people talked about the law regarding the ACCC they were referring to Australian law. Furthermore Australia and the EU (whose consumer protection laws are virtually identical) make up the vast majority of the western market for Sony. Maybe those gamers in other parts of the world (limited parts of Asia and North & South America) need to focus on getting similar consumer protection laws so this kind of thing can't happen to them again so that they're not just limited to lawsuits where money becomes an issue.

Also the custom firmware came about because of Sony's actions and so it was bound to get into that- which it did, courtesy of the Sony suck ups - clearly you were too busy screwing yourself by your own attitude to notice that. If you want to blame anyone for thisw thread getting off topic, point the finger squarely at them where it belongs.

Do everyone here a favour and pull your head out of your backside!

you want to talk about pointing the finger at where it belong's?

let's shall we-

as for doing CFW in response to Sony's action's.

that is lame and an insult to think this was in response to:

No, that's complete an utter BS, IT CAME ABOUT BECAUSE SOME CONSUMER THOUGHT THE RULE'S DO NOT APPLY TO HIM.

That's How it came about while screwing the d@mn rest of us in the process.

Geohot was no doubt working on CFW such before he even released his Hack to the internet because he knew what Sony was going to do if he released it.  An yet he went right ahead and did it,

The CFW he was already working on and not to mention already getting downgrader chip's for his PS3.

where right on the web site for those downgrader chip's states:

"Our Team or any other associated companies do not condone the illegal copying and/or distribution of computer software for the game consoles or any other format. You must act accordingly to the laws of your country! Respect the laws, Respect the gaming industry, and use our products accordingly in its original state."

and once again Geohot does not think the rule's apply to him,

If Geohot would have just kept his mouth shut and not released to everyone on the internet we would not be in this mess.

I love how you and other's See only Sony is to blame for this.

So like I said go an do what you have to do and while your at it

why are you not seeking damages also from Geohot?

o'l that's right "HE'S A CONSUMER"

Since he broke every d@mn rule in the His action's caused this and through Geohot's own

Negligence

caused all this

why are you not pointing the finger at who' is responsible

Computer Misuse Act 1990

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1990/ukpga_19900018_en_1#pb1-l1g3

 

 

 

 

 

No actually the legal argument came about because someone started discussing the legalities of CFW when the whole situation has come about because Sony's illegal actions. Regardless of what Geohot has done, it does not justify Sony breaking the law any. You keep sprouting nonsense, but then why is the ACCC currently investigating the situation? Why did the NSW Dept of Fair Trading tell me flat out that what Sony ha done was illegal? Why did Amazon.uk refund that customer (something you'd only do if you knew the law was clear cut and were trying to avoid a criminal investigation taking place.

You keep wanting to excuse Sony by blaming their arrogance and criminal behavoiur on his actions, but it's absolutely ludicrous.

Since you want to talk about legalities, let's put this in a very brutal context. Suppose for a minute that Person A who I do not know and am in the same restaurant with by chance has made serious enough death threats against Person B that they fear that they'll be murdered any day. Person B then gets hold of a semi automatic weapon, bursts into the restaurant and kills every single person including me. By your logic, it's Person A that should be charged with my pre-meditated murder and not Person B when it was Person B who decided they were above the law and wanted to take extreme measures, who got hold of a semi automatic weapon, and killed me, and every other innocent bystander in an effort to make sure they killed the Person A and anyone who MIGHT be associating with them.By your argument, to translate it to this scenario, he was justified in commiting a massacre because he had every reason to believe that his life was in danger from a single victim of several at the scene.

What court of law in any country would let Person B off in that scenario?

You can quote all the computer misuse laws you want, but those only apply where actual misuse has taken place. As Sony's actions here extend far beyond those cases (in this case just a single case) and break the law in infinitely more instances, you can't even claim that the law breach is justifiable. Geohot didn't remove my otherOS function, Sony did, so why exactly should I blame Geohot in my own personal situation when consumer protection laws clearly state that this is irrelevant?