The Real Cause of Islamic Fundamentalism is Hitler.

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ironman said:

Doobie_wop said:

ironman said:

Doobie_wop said:

ironman said:

Hmm, Ok so there was an Incident in Rochester MN that proves the opposite of what you are saying. A few years back a mosque in downtown was being renovated. A gentleman on the contractors team had mentioned he was Jewish. Upon hearing this, a young Muslim who could barely speak English, grabbed a shovel and ran at the guy saying "I kill you! I kill you!" this is not isolated...the Coran can be foggy as you want to make it out to be. The fact is, a great many Muslims DO believe the portion of the Coran that commands them to kill all Jews. 

I want you to do me a favour and go out and google a few events that may just soothe your ignorance. Look up The Crusades, the Inquisition and actually read the bible and then ask yourself if Christians are much better. Every religion has it's extremist who will twist the word's of their own religion so that it suit's their purpose. A great many Christians believe that gay people should be burnt alive, black people should be slaves and that President Obama is the anti Christ.

Whoa! So you admit I'm right? I know other religions have their dark moments...but that's not the conversation here is it? This conversation is about Jewish/Muslim relations. If you wish to discuss other religions that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic, start your own thread. In the future I would refrain from insulting other members, the mods tend not to like that.

I never insulted you, I'm educating you. You used one example about a bad muslim and then used that example to generalise all muslims. I then gave an example of extremist from other religions which act in the same way, my example showed that the religion in question isn't to blame but the certain mindsets of people are to blame. Your just discriminating against a whole section of the world just because you watched a few bad segments on your local news broadcast.

What part of "...that just may sooth your ignorance" is not an insult? You need to reread your post. I do hope you at least got a warning for that. 

And if you think that my single example is isolated then you sir, live in a fantasy world. hey, here's another fun fact. My dad worked at the IBM building in Rochester MN (you know, the one that is over a mile long?) on 9/11 not a single Muslim came to work, this was reportedly the case in many other businesses in Rochester. Now you can try and tell me that the Muslim religion is one of peace and love, but I know better, they knew about the impending attack and didn't warn anybody. I made a generalization because while it's obviously not something all Muslims follow (and I know because I had a Muslim friend back in college) over in the middle east there are many who do believe that the Coran orders them to kill all Jews. And obviously even here in America there are those that do. So go ahead, call me discriminatory, but I know better.

@Final Fan, yes, the Coran DOES make it quite clear that Muslims are to kill all Jews Some muslims obviously don't believe that, but there are too many that do for me to just dismiss it. 

And as for my anecdote why in the world would a young Muslim come at the one guy on the crew that was Jewish, and not any of the other guys? In-fact, no matter how offensive, that is no reason to try and kill somebody, that is a sure sign of intolerance. No matter which way you try and twist it, it's quite clear that the Muslim intended to kill the Jewish guy BECAUSE he was Jewish. And trying to dismiss it by calling it third hand is just silly. It did happen and there is more than one person who can testify to it. 

@ both of you, i'm sorry that I have dared insult your favorite religion, but as Doobie_wop so aptly put it, no religion is spotless, so settle down.

@ Doobie_wop - The amount of christians who think gays should be burnt alive, blacks as slaves and who think president Obama is the antichrist is probably the same amount as the 1 percent of muslims who actually support terrorism so before you so ignorantly use  the term "many" get your facts straight.

@ ironman - Please provide references or articles where it stated that most muslims didn't show up for work that day. It probably has the same credibility as the internet rumours that 4000 jews didnt show up to work at the world trade center that day. Also there is more than enough evidence out there and quite the heavy debate wether or not 9/11 itself was a false flag attack (which is another topic on its own).