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Three 360's have made their way into my house since launch. 2 of them died. One is brand new, my nephews grandmother bought it for him recently. I have no faith in the xbox brand, the quality is unacceptably poor and I will not spend a cent on xbox branded items this generation. You cannot reward microsoft for this failure. I love windows, its a solid secure product, but Xbox is broken as always has been in one way or another. Natal is move without the controller, move can easily be programmed to give natal-like abilities, but natal can't be retro fitted, youll need to buy a controller when they inevitably make one