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mrstickball said:
ManusJustus said:
mrstickball said:
Lots of sources would disagree with ManusJustus on the animosity between Jews and Muslims being a very new thing:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf15.html

Of course there has been animosity, which has been the norm for minorities throughout history, but not 'war' as was previously stated by someone here.  Jews have gotten a bad rap from almost every culture in history, but before the creation of Israel Jews were better off in Arab countries than Christian European ones.

Also, I'd trust the Jewish Library about as much as I'd trust the Muslim Library.

Now your going back and revising your initial statement.

You said:

No they haven't.  Conflict between Jewsand Muslim didn't start until this century with the founding of Israel.  Before that, Jews lived peacefully alongside Muslims, Jews even fled Europe and moved to Arab countries because of Christian persecution during the Dark Ages.

That is by and far away from 'of course there has been animosity, which has been the norm for minorities throughout history'.

I am not understanding why you'd discredit the article at a Jewish Library only because it seeks to make citations of where and why there has been animosity. Read the entire article, it did a fantastic job of painting times and places that Muslims got very well along with Jews, and when they were slaughtered. Just because it is a Jewish source doesn't mean it should be discredited, especially given the citations it used.

That is wrong.

Conflict - a fight, battle, or struggle, esp. a prolonged struggle; strife

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/conflict

Conflict, in the form it was used in my discussion, is more than mistreatment of minorities, which has been present in almost every society since the beginning of time.  If you did the full quote you would see that I was replying to someone who said that Jews and Muslims had been at war for a long period of time, which was inaccurate.