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dunno001 said:
nitekrawler1285 said:
People who say graphics don't mean anything are kidding themselves. It's VIDEO games. If the graphics are unappealing or muddy it hampers your gameplay experience.

Funny; many would call the graphics of a game like Breakout appalling, or even almost non-existant. It's a series of squares and rectangles. But it's still a damn fun game to me; rounding off the ball on a newer system isn't going to make it a better game. What makes it better is stuff like improved physics. Make me a Breakout game with a damn near perfect physics engine, and I'll think it's a blast, whether it looks shiny or just like the Atari version.

Yes, they are VIDEO games, as you said. But nowhere does said "video" suddenly have to be this ultra-graphical thing. What 'video' is, is a series of moving pictures. The picture could be as simple as a square bouncing around, but a video it remains. So no, I don't need pretty graphics, and no, I'm not kidding myself. What I care about is the underlying game. Sure, Halo 3 looks a hell of a lot better than Pac Man. But I don't care for FPS games, so despite the better graphics of Halo, I'm going to pick the "worse" game, and play Pac Man. Why would I do that, if graphics mattered so much? Part of it is preferences, and part of it is that I just don't care about graphics.

No where did I say video means it has to be ultra-graphical.  That was just your assumption about what I meant. If you can't discern what going on from the graphics it's not going to be easy to experience the gameplay that everyone is hyping and that is simply the way VIDEO Games work.  Yes I happen to love when games have great graphics.  I didn't say that makes the other aspects of it unimportant.  Nor did I say graphics should be the focus.  I said if the graphics are unappealing(ugly or without aesthetic value) or muddy(read as unclear in what is being perceived) it hampers your ability to play the game.  If you don't concur with that statement then I do believe you are kidding yourself. 

Just because games like Breakout and Pac Man are simple in appearance doesn't mean they unappealing or muddy. Their visuals are clear, concise and give you great ability to perceive what is going on. The color of the various squares in Breakout are appealing.  As well as the flashing ghosts and big yellow pie against  a black background with borders. If you couldn't see those things so easily I don't think you would have a good time with those games.     

Hell Okami is a bunch of low-res textures and really jaggy models that didn't stop it from being one of my favorite games ever with one of the most appealing style of visuals.  I would never make someone play Halo 3 instead of any game.  FPS suck and thus Pac Man is clearly the superior game.