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Final-Fan said:
tarheel91 said:
Edit: What?  Your side is arguing that Marx criticized the French Commune but acknowledge a quote by him that treats it as a model transition from one form of government to communism?  What the hell am I supposed to be countering?  Point 2 looks unnecessary now.

Pardon me if I'm mistaken, but I believe that the quote was by Engels, not Marx.  And Kasz216 has said that "[Marx] and Engles were very different."  There is no contradiction. 

Marx also acknowledged it as a model... but one that was needlessly burdened by democracy, and needed a leader.

Which was Blanq on who they tried to trade the Archbishop of France for.

Marx basically saw the workers revolution as a promising start with a lot of mistakes.

For what it's worth Lenin, Stalin and Mao also acknowledge the French Commune in the same way.  According to each of them... their governments were exenstions of the Paris Commune.

It was more the revolution they were applauding and aknowledging... not the way it was carried out.


Engles differed from the rest in that he saw it as the correct model.