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andremop said:

The things we learn... now difficulty = hardcoreness
Well, I guess MGS4 is a kiddie game then, since it's nowhere near as hard as hmm... Contra?
And MGS2 is a babies games, since it's much, much easier than... pac man.

Mario Galaxy is hardcore as hell, period. Each jump requires precision - precision that my mother, your aunt and everybody's little brother lack.

Contra aka (Probotector) is most definitely more hardcore then MGS4... it took me years beating that