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konnichiwa said:

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kitler53 said:

Oh....Guns for hunting =/= Guns like Uzi's. I can just go to a gun store and buy a hunting gun I can understand that but I don't understand why people want a (example) Uzi for.

If you want to have one you can have one too but with conditions. I thought like going to a psychiater and he just will see if you have no mental problems and (not sure) if you are in a shooting club.

I don't know how it is in the USA or in the other EU countries.

Answer of your question: Of course you may have a gun if you are a hunter then it is not a problem at all.

But if you want something like a Uzi then I prefer that the government makes it difficult for you to get one (I prefer to make it very difficult than to make it to very easy) with all those accidents the last years (shooting on schools) it is better to make it difficult imo.

It is true that it is your government's job to protect your rights but it is also your government's job to protect the people and I think making it easy to get a gun is not a good thing.

And what is the difference of the bill of rights and uhm example the rights of the people in the UK?

I am pretty sure freedom of speech is the case in the most EU countries.

I think you should learn more about the laws of Europe(an countries).

ANd I think should learn more about yours.

Is this "and I think you should learn more about yours" or would you like to learn more about ours? Because let me tell you ...I'm your man if you want to learn about our laws. I know plenty about my constitution and the laws of the US. I'm a class, a paper, and a bar exam from arguing it in front of judges. Maybe even some day arguing in front of the Supreme Court. To be honest, I know it better than I want to. If anything studying the law has pretty much wrecked any shred of idealism I've had. Seeing how the system works from the inside is really, really depressing.

I agree with a lot of what you're saying in spirit, the parts I don't agree on I at least see and respect where you're coming from because they're both essentially reaching for the same goal--a better citizen.  

I'm not one to hold a grudge over it. Generally speaking from your posts I think you're someone worth respecting.  

I personally would rather there not be any drug laws, either. I don't do them, but if someone wants to ruin their life, I say let them.  They stem from the commerce clause here, making some really shakey logical jumps if that gives you an idea of what our founders thought of the government regulating the citizen's life. Same thing applies to me for gun laws. Again, I'm going under different set of presuppositions. I think people should be allowed to live their lives as they see fit without government regulation.

Bah, this has just spiraled out of control. It came from someone talking about the EU gobbling up the US, which will never happen anyway.  Primarily because of differences like these. To be honest this EU thing worries me  because philosophical differences between countries can cause problems. We had it with our Articles of Confederation over some really weird little things that just built up over time, ended up causing a civil war.