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Kage848 said:
TheWon said:

What was that stick in the dam middle of the N64 controller? Mario the first 3d platformer game used it and started it.
Also the Rumble Pak was on the market in April of 97. Dualshock was on the market in May 98. Sony only showed it off in late 97.
His statement about making it popular isn't really accurate either.
I say give the people who invented their due, but it's clear Sony has been on Nintendo dick.
Sense day one after they got but hurt about the SNES addon deal.

The only thing Sony has really pioneer is making us pay high prices for systems.
Never mind 3DO, and Neo Geo beat them to that too. Poor Sony always playing Michael Jackson to Nintendo's Elvis!

Thank you. now I don't have to respond to his BS post at all.

Only reason I said it don't count unless it get popular is becasue non of this tech is new. The inovation comes from taking the tech and making it work for the consumer. The Atari 5200 had a, kinda, analog stick on it I think. But It was the N64 that made it work. And Sony stole that shit faster than you can blink.

And how is my comment BS?  I swear the internet is filled with people who can't debate worth a crap.  It's not about presenting your side and backing it up with facts.  It's now about calling people and their opinions BS and instead of facts, we worry about who got "owned."  The fact remains, you can't credit Nintendo with the advancement of analog, when they used only one stick (as opposed to the two everyone uses now) and for the fact that said stick was digital, not analog.  If you can't admit to that, then I just feel sorry for you.

As for the rumble statement, like I said in an earlier comment, you need to look at the Dual Analog (it included internal rumble), which launched the exact same month as the rumble pak in Japan, April of '97.  Care to explain how Sony copied them then?  And why people use internal rumble now like Sony did, as opposed to a rumble pak?