Wlakiz said:
Netyaroze said:
Wlakiz said:
dsister44 said:
Wlakiz said:
1. I am saying they can ban you the moment you logon regardless of your ip
2. Good to know
3. Thats the risk you take 
4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray#Digital_rights_management :"Since keys can be revoked in newer releases, this is only a temporary attack, and new keys must continually be discovered in order to decrypt the latest discs. This cat and mouse game has gone through several cycles."
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Of course I'm not going to log in with the same account every time
3. The more I think about this the more I think that they can't do it. If any of the big 3 decide that I am not allowed to play a game that I pay for then I am sueing
4. I believe this is why you need to update your firmware. Whenever I play a blu-ray movie it says that I need to have the latest firmware or else it will have problems playing. This should be fixed with cfw. If we ever get any =p
I highly doubt they can use the code to prevent my PS3 from playing blu-rays
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Well its more or less if they blacklist your PS3's keys, it'll prevent you from playing any future BDs.. but whatever, you can still hug your otherOS.
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Sorry I have to ask:
You assume that every PS3 or Bluray player has its own unique key no other PS3/Bluray player has ?
And if Sony blacklisted your individual key from your PS3 they gona put it on a blacklist and your PS3 key will be pressed on every single new released disc ?
I never heard of that and I was truly surprised first. I googled a bit but I found literally nothing about a person who was blacklisted by sony and cant play new bluray releases. Then I read the link. (I should have read the link first)
Indeed I understood the wikipedia article in a totally different way. I cant make the connection between:
"The Advanced Access Content System (AACS) is a standard for content distribution and digital rights management. It was developed by AS Licensing Administrator, LLC (AACS LA), a consortium that includes Disney, Intel, Microsoft, Panasonic, Warner Bros., IBM, Toshiba, andSony.
Since appearing in devices in 2006, several successful attacks have been made on the format. The first known attack relied on the trusted clientproblem. In addition, decryption keys have been extracted from a weakly protected player (WinDVD). Since keys can be revoked in newer releases,[86] this is only a temporary attack, and new keys must continually be discovered in order to decrypt the latest discs. This cat-and-mouse game has gone through several cycles.
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And:
"Well its more or less if they blacklist your PS3's keys, it'll prevent you from playing any future BDs.. but whatever, you can still hug your otherOS."
This has nothing to do with the bluray player or the PS3 this has something to do with pirating bluray discs.
See those decryption keys are on the disc itself and in order to decrypt (and pirate) the disc you need those keys if you extract them you are able to copy the disc. They make new keys all the time and the pirates have to get them in order to copy the disc. This is the cat and mouse game There is no blacklist and your PS3 has not an individual Bluray key, so that Sony can put this single key on a blacklist and press it on all new bluray releases.
To the CFW:
Sony made a mistake with the removal of Linux first because they will get in trouble atleast in some countries mainly EU and Australia. They probably hope nobody will sue them. In europe they would lose but the problem is it costs a lot to make lawsuite and it takes time and there is probably noone willing to sue Sony because of that. And Sony knows that.
I am not mad at them but I do understand if people are upset about it. You cant punish hundreds of thousend customers because someone said he hacked the PS3.
This "CFW" is not like an usual CFW. They havent deleted OOS Functionality yet they just disabled it. Geohot has switched it on again he has done it with using files of the old FW, this isnt a true CFW. Its not comparable to any CFW out there and can barely be called a CFW. Thats why he wrote my "custom firmware" and not my custom firmware.
If Sony takes out the whole functionality in the next FW everything is gone and we wont see a OOS FW a long time. Sony was playing it safe probably because they feared lawsuites so they wait some weeks or months too see peoples reactions, they will probably delete it completly nexttime if its not in the FW at all nobody can activate it. Unless you truly make a custom FW but thats a whole lot of work and will take some time maybe next year.
Thats why he said theoretically you could enable OOS on Slims too because they have also just the OtherOS switch on
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Sony has yet to blacklist anyone's PS3's key is strictly because PS3 hasn't been hacked to play bootlegged disc yet. In any case, I don't think you understand the technology to begin with. Blu-ray disc information are encrypted they need a decryption key to decrypt the information. 'Piraters' collect legit keys from players and use them to decrypt the blu-ray discs to watch and copy Region locked movies. These keys that they collect can be 'revoked' such that they can no longer be used to read the disc anymore and that means the legit player that the pirate took the keys from can't be used watch new movies anymore.
Each PS3 have their own unique key stored in hardware. They use this key to decrypt the blu-ray discs. If the key gets revoked, that particular PS3 can't decrypt the new movies anymore because it got blacklisted. Here is an article about how a PS3 decrypts information http://www.vmecritical.com/articles/id/?2035
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I have read your link. First ou give a link from wikipedia about the digital rights managment on blurays you quoted a sentence about AACS (which is used on DVDs also) and then to the security archtiecture of the cell ? What has the cell decryption key to do with "Advanced Access Content System". I think they are talking about totally different keys then in the article about Cell security architecture.
The AACS decryption process.
AACS
The Advanced Access Content System (AACS) is a standard for content distribution and digital rights management. It was developed by AS Licensing Administrator, LLC (AACS LA), a consortium that includes Disney, Intel, Microsoft, Panasonic, Warner Bros., IBM, Toshiba, andSony.
Since appearing in devices in 2006, several successful attacks have been made on the format. The first known attack relied on the trusted clientproblem. In addition, decryption keys have been extracted from a weakly protected player (WinDVD). Since keys can be revoked in newer releases,[86] this is only a temporary attack, and new keys must continually be discovered in order to decrypt the latest discs. This cat-and-mouse game has gone through several cycles.
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= ? Sry I dont understand the connection. Your second article explained how the cell decrypts information. The first thing showed how the Digital rights managment works. But even in your second article wasnt a clue where stands that Sony can pick out a particular PS3 and put it on a blacklist,which is pressed on new bluray releases. Also the first thing has nothing to do with bluray only. How do you know that every cell has its unique key ? The Digital rights managment article and the cell article are talking imo about two different keys and not about the same thing.
Where does it say in your link that sony can put a single bluray player/PS3 on a blacklist. Does every Device have its own key ? It would be a lot of work for Sony and why having millions of different keys ? Not just 34 Million PS3 keys but another tens of millions of keys of other bluray player ? You gave me informations about the cell security architecture. And as far as I know those keys are the same in all PS3 cell CPUs. There arent 34 Million different keys out there ? And if there arent 34 Million keys out there then Sony cant single out a certain PS3.
If this is indeed true I apologize and I would be glad If I can have some other informations some article or something else where they explicitly mention those things. Its interesting to hear about. But in the moment it looks like you have made your own conclusions with the informations you got and I just cant see how you figured out it works that way.
