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mirgro said:
TheRealMafoo said:
mirgro said:
This is quite interesting. It's even more interesting that it is supported by republicans, the greatest "keep government out of my life" type of people. I mean, seriously, how can you justify your argument about how government shouldn't meddle in your money, when it can meddle with your body as much as it wants?

To put it in the words of someone who is wiser in these matters than any of us:

"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."

If a cop knows two blocks down a house was robbed, and he sees someone walking down the street with a TV, I think most republicans want that man stopped and questioned, even though the cob did not see that man commit a crime. 

A country is suposed to be about the rule of law. The people we intrust to make sure that law is upheld need some level of ability to do there job. If someone is suspected of committing a crime, an officer of the law should be allowed to investigate further.

I agree with you here. Except that your analogy is deeply flawed.

Not really. I am not saying you have free license to investigate anyone who looks Mexican. I am saying I think the police have the right to ask questions about citizenship to whomever they feel are here illegally.

Others in this forum as equating those two things to mean the same thing. I am not. It takes more than looking like your Mexican to qualify.

I guess where I am coming from, is if I did some data mining on everyone who stole a car, and I looked at the top 4 indicators that came back to help me predict who might steal a car based on appearance, I am not going to discredit a response because one of the indicators was based on race. If the top 4 were {“had a coat”, ”wore a hat”, “always looked down”, “Always had hands in pockets” } logic tells me that if I pay extra attention to people who fit that description, I will catch more people who steal cars. If what came back was {“had a coat”, ”wore a hat”, “black”, “Always had hands in pockets” }, not taking advantage of that data just because it’s not PC is… well… wrong.