Conservative Kristallnacht

[De85]

ManusJustus said:

De85 said:

ManusJustus said:

Radical Islamists are conservatives.

You equated a statement I said about mainstream Conservative opinion, specifically that many conservatives vandalize non-Christian advertisements and George Bush saying atheists shouldn't be citizens, to conservatives commiting acts of violence, which is the use of physical force to harm others.  Notice that there is a huge difference here.

Wow, way to just ignore the majority of what I said.  Even though you call them conservative, radical islamists are just about as far away idelogically as you can get with what is called "the conservative movement" in America. 

Per your definition conservatives do not want change.  If you still stick to that definition then there is not a single conservative living in the US because nobody is content with the way things are now.  In fact, the previously mentioned islamists would not be conservatives either because they are definitely in favor of change - one big, worldwide regime change. 

When people refer to "conservatives" in America the term is used to mean people in favor of smaller government/less government involvement in peoples' lives.  If you still think that equates to wanting to institute sharia law then you're just being willfully ignorant and I'm done tring to talk to you.

Thats not my defintion, its the Webster Dictionary definition.

Conservative - disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change

Islamic Radicals want to restore the Islamic State.  They blame Westernization for Muslim's loss of political power and think that restoring an Islamic state based on Shariah Law, just like Mohammed and his Caliph succesors who controlled most of the Middle East, will bring them back to power.  Nazis wanted to restore the German Reich, Mussolini wanted to restore the Roman Empire, and Conservatives want to restore 19th century America.  Do you see the pattern?

Conservatives may want less taxes and government spending, but Conservatives are not for less government in people's lives.  They want the government to be able to violate civil liberties (Patriot Act), they want the government to not allow gay couples the same rights as straight couples, they want Christianity to be forced on others, and the list goes on an on.

The only pattern present is your perpetual oversimplifaction of the issue at hand, ignoring points made against you because that's easier than thinking about them, and sweeping generalizations that are not even remotely accurate.  If you choose to be narrow-minded that's your issue, the arguments are all laid out in this thread for anyone else to follow, but you are no longer worth my time.  Respond if you like, but I won't be back to this thread.