Roger Ebert says video games can never be art

[Reasonable]

Grahamhsu said:
@Reasonable I believe all of us have the ability to become Remy, you say Collette is a craftswoman and she certainly is depicted as such in Ratatouille, but the mere fact that she understands food and how flavors work already gives her the tools needed to go one more step into the level of Artist.

Of the 4 years I've spent at the conservatory I've seen Linguini's turn into Collete's and some even go on to become Remys. I've seen players with masterful technique, some with higher technical skills than the teachers, but extremely lacking in musical ideas, and I've seen these players in a mere 2 years mature so much musically I couldn't believe they were the same person.

I'd have to disagree (not with what you've personally seen) but as to likely levels of improvement.  In the end, no matter how much anyone studies, they are not going to be a Kubrik or a Wells or a Picasso or a Shakespeare (I know I'm picking the tip top but it's easiest to make the point there).

I do believe that probably all of us could easily be better at almost anything but putting in effort - in fact as I said that goes towards enjoying art as well (whatever the medium).  The more you understand the more you can appreciate.  For example, sticking with the examples from Ratatouille, Colette clearly understands the medium of food way more than Linguini, but of course if he tried really hard he could improve and perhaps get to Colette's level.  But while Colette (as presented) might become a minor artist herself, I believe the film is accurate and correct in its thesis that in the end we all have an upper limit and they differ.

The Incredibles (also by Bird) also echoed elements of this sentiment.  Some people are just smarter, faster, better whether at art, counting, rowing, running or whatever and while we can all improve ourselves I really, really doubt we can all hit the top tier.  In the end one by one we'd hit a barrier, where native talent (the creative spark if you will or your basic physical makeup for sports) would not be enough and not amount of learning or practice would take us further.

I do take the optimistic view, which I hope comes across in my posts - but I also doubt the ability for everyone to reach the highest pinacles of any endevour.