ManusJustus said:
Ad hominems are not fallacies. Individuals and groups that resort to violence to force their social and political views on others are predominately conservative, thus conservatism poses a threat to democratic society. Concerning Nazis, what did they do before they got into power? They intimidated politicians, vandalized homes and businesses, conjured up fears of foriegners and minority groups, claim those who disagree with them don't support their country, and so forth. Exactly how conservatives in America act. You may be from Europe or elsewhere, or perhaps you only get your information from Fox News, but hate crimes committed by conservatives are very common in the United States. It is very common for non-conservative groups to be personally assaulted because of who they are. Assaults and intimidation against homosexual are still main stream in rural (conservative) areas of America. When Jim Adkisson was asked why he brought a gun into a Unitarian Church and killed several innocent people, he said, "because I hate the liberal movement." He wanted to commit suicide, but thought that killing liberals before being killed by police would be better. Recently, atheist/agnostic groups started buying ad space saying "if you don't believe in God, you're not alone," but wherever these advertisements go they are vandalized; and its not fringe conservatives, its a majority of conservatives. When President George H. W. Bush was asked if he recognized the equal citizenship and patriotism of Americans who are atheists, he replied, "I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God." Atheists aren't considered citizens in Saudi Arabia or Iran either... |
They're not solid arguments either, but rather only make you look petty while trying to make your point.
As for your whole second paragraph, you're just exhibiting a selective memory, choosing to ignore threats and violence against conservatives. You've invented a world for yourself where you and your ilk are infallible and have never done anything wrong. You believe yourself to be a victim, demonize everyone who disagrees with you, and refuse to see logic when it is presented to you.
Here's some logic, let's see if you can follow it: You claim that it is a majority of conservatives who commit acts of violence against liberals. There are around 300 million people living in the US, and according to the most recent Gallup poll I could find approximately 40% of Americans identify themselves as conservative. By your logic and doing the math, that means that there should be around more than 60 million (majority of those 40%) who systematically commit atrocities against liberals. Funny, I must have missed the news reports of all those attacks.
Face it, the only people engaging in violent acts are fringe radicals who do not represent the values of either the rank and file of the movement/ideology, or its leadership. You would not look at a few isolated crimes commited by a few black people and conclude that all black people are violent, would you? Of course not, to do so would be racist. For some reason though you have no problem reaching that exact conclusion in a nearly identical situation.
