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De85 said: In this entire thread you've engaged largely in ad hominem attacks against conservatives using overly sensationalist language. I shouldn't have to remind you, but due to your insistence on pressing this point I will anyway - the Nazis killed over 6 million Jews in just their death camps alone. Add in the gypsies, homosexuals, and other people the Nazis oppressed and it goes up even more, with estimates ranging from 11-17 million people in total who lost their lives to the nazis. If you think that a few fringe radicals who in no way represent the majority of the movement or their ideals are enough to equate all conservatives with nazis then you are helplessly delusional. |
Ad hominems are not fallacies. Individuals and groups that resort to violence to force their social and political views on others are predominately conservative, thus conservatism poses a threat to democratic society.
Concerning Nazis, what did they do before they got into power? They intimidated politicians, vandalized homes and businesses, conjured up fears of foriegners and minority groups, claim those who disagree with them don't support their country, and so forth. Exactly how conservatives in America act. You may be from Europe or elsewhere, or perhaps you only get your information from Fox News, but hate crimes committed by conservatives are very common in the United States. It is very common for non-conservative groups to be personally assaulted because of who they are. Assaults and intimidation against homosexual are still main stream in rural (conservative) areas of America. When Jim Adkisson was asked why he brought a gun into a Unitarian Church and killed several innocent people, he said, "because I hate the liberal movement." He wanted to commit suicide, but thought that killing liberals before being killed by police would be better.
Recently, atheist/agnostic groups started buying ad space saying "if you don't believe in God, you're not alone," but wherever these advertisements go they are vandalized; and its not fringe conservatives, its a majority of conservatives. When President George H. W. Bush was asked if he recognized the equal citizenship and patriotism of Americans who are atheists, he replied, "I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God." Atheists aren't considered citizens in Saudi Arabia or Iran either...
