johnappseed84 said:
jarrod said:
johnappseed84 said:
jarrod said:
None of those games have outsold Twilight Princess actually. But again, we're moving farther and farther from any real relevance to a niche RPG like Persona. No Persona game will ever come close to those sorts of sales regardless of platform, so I'm not sure why you keep bringing them up?
Also, I think you misunderstood me, I'm not saying future Personas should ape Strange Journey and be something of a more hardcore throwback. I'm saying Atlus has purposely repositioned Persona, and made it more appealing to a teen audience versus older Megatens (including Persona 1-2).
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Actually, GTA4 PS3 outsold Twilight Princess. And Twilight Princess had the advantage of being a Nintendo game, yet the fact that Twilight Princess has only sold 5.5 million copies and the Metroid games on Wii so far have failed to sell more than 2 million copies says something about the audience for T and M games on Wii. I brought up the other games because you listed some of the bestselling T and M games on Wii versus the sales of some of the lower selling T and M games on PS3 that have sold like past Persona games. Third party ips like Muramasa on Wii that had a great deal of critical acclaim yet failed to sell like Yakuza 3 etc. on PS3 shows that Persona could actually sell less on the Wii than past PS2 versions of Persona while sales of games like Yakuza 3, White Story, etc on PS3 show that Persona 5 could sell like past Personas on PS2 on PS3. I think they are trying to appeal to the typical anime fans that tend to like games like the Personas on PS2 and have a PS3 for blu-ray and the Final Fantasy games. |
Only two Metroid games in history have sold over 2 million. Even Super Metroid didn't, it's a fairly niche series. And Twilight Princess Wii is the 3rd best selling Zelda in history. I'm not so sure either of these cases are great examples for Wii's inability to sell M/T games, when they're doing well above average for their respective franchises? Unlike say, GTA4 PS3. ;)
Also, I wasn't listing "some of the best selling T and M games on Wii", I was listing "Mature audience games" on Wii in Japan that sold in the territory of Persona titles. Y'know, to show that sort of sales potential is well within range for Wii's 10m+ base.
And finally, what's with comparing Yakuza 3 to Muramasa? One's a big budget, hugely advertised AAA series from the 4th largest Japanese games company that sold nearly a million on PS2. The other's a 2D sidescroller, from a tiny developer and niche publisher, who's spiritual predecessor on PS2 sold around 100k. You're pretty laughably off the mark if you series think either series is at all comparable to each other, or a good indicator for Persona...
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The reason GTA4 didn't sell as well as past GTA's was because it was on both 360 and PS3. If it had been only on PS3 it would have sold comparably to past GTA games because if you add up the total for 360 and PS3 it is close to past GTA sales. How many T and M rated games have sold over 250,000 copies on Wii in Japan and how many T and M rated games have sold over 250,000 copies on PS3 in Japan? |
Twilight Princess was also on GameCube. If it hadn't been, then I guess it'd be the best selling Zelda in history by now. ;)
Japan doesn't use M/T, they use the Cero scale. For their highest rating (Cero Z) no PS3 or Wii games have sold over 250k. For the next highest (Cero D) only Resident Evil (PS3 & Wii), Yakuza (PS3) and Hokuto Musou (PS3) games have. For reference, in Japan the Persona games are rated Cero B. Strange Journey and the Devil Summoners were Cero C. Persona's pretty much viewed as the more teen oriented, less hardcore Megaten spinoff.
