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Pipedream24 said:
perpride said:
Pipedream24 said:

Video game stories are on the most part cliched and predictable, but that doesn't mean they have to be ridiculous. I agree, MGS4 is absolutely a mess. I can't believe so many people hearld it as one of the greatest stories of all time. The story is incoherent at best and borders on absurd at points (Seriously, Raiden going into battle with no arms and his sword in his teeth). Kojima is better than that. MGS, Snatcher, and ZoE were at least enjoyable stories.

Modern Warfare 2 is another game with horrific storytelling. I know it's a FPS, but there is no continuity to the story what so ever. It jumps all over the place and leaves you wondering "What the hell did I just do".

I also agree with Bioshock being the pinnacle in video game stories so far (Heavy Rain was pretty damn good as well). I don't expect Hollywood scripts for games. Development cost are already high enough. But at least keep things in the realm of plausibilty and have the plot make sense.



You call MGS4 story redicolous and a mess, yet hail Heavy Rain (or as I like to call it, swiss cheese) as one of the greatest stories of all time?


I understand MGS4 was complicated, but it was an amazing storyline and wrapped the series up perfectly imo.

 

I'm not hailing any games story as the greatest story in the world.  Like I said, I don't expect videogame stories to rival Hollywood productions.  Many people expect them to.  I just like there to be some cohesiveness and keep things plausible within the context of the story.  Was Heavy Rain perfect?  Of course not. No game story is (Very few movies tie up all the loose ends as well).  But as far as storytelling and keeping the player involved in said story, it deserves to be commended.  I guess thats why I enjoyed it more than most games claiming to have epic stories.  Character connection.

Really, it is "To each their own".  Different people have different taste amd I am not going to ram my opinion down others gamers throats (Not saying you are by any means).  I just agreed with the OP on MGS4.  For someone who had started playing the series when the original was first released on the NES, it was a major disappointment.  I'm glad you and others enjoyed it...It just wasn't for me.

 

I agree, with, character connection.. might be something that, videogames do better than with movies beings your kind of interacting and walking around with them (by thumbstick). Makes you feel more immersed I guess, Like I mean even though you don't get to choose directly. I felt more like Meryl in MGS, and many of the FF Characters. That atleast for me its a different connection than I get from movies... and sorta similar to Serialized TV shows. atleast for me. Like I mean part of being a videogame like... when I watch a movie like avatar I'm like cool its done. But when I play ME of Certain Final Fantasy's I feel like I actually saved the world (to a reasonable extent.)

And even hollywood writers fail on a regular basis to create good scipts. So videogames with storys I think have so many more elements they can screw up on than a movie.

BTW my only perfect movie for me is Blade Runner, not perfect but perfect.

Sorry, have to uhh advertise a 30 year old movie :)