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TheRealMafoo said:
ManusJustus said:

hobbit said:

lol what? the civil war was started because Lincoln wanted to use the power of the President to take away states rights. The southern states jumped the gun and started a war instead of fighting it in court. And yes in The usa we follow the constitution, just wait until the health care case gets to the Supreme Court to see this. If a majority ever got big enough that they could replace the constitution then you will see the usa break apart again.

No, it was all about slavery...

Only 8% of the population owned slaves, but almost everyone was willing to die for the cause.

Tell me how this is all about slavery again?

Slaves partially counted towards political representation and tax allocation.  For instance, if South Carolina had 2 million whites and 1 million blacks, they were represented as having 2.66 million people in Congress.  Take away slavery and the South loses big time politically.

Even today, Republicans don't want Washington DC to have political representaiton because of their Democrat leanings.  The Democrats offered to give Utah (most Republican state) another representative so people in Washington could have a right to be representated in government, but Republicans declined.  We have problems today about representation, so you can imagine how bad it was in 1860 when slaves gave their state extra representatives and extra tax money.