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Kasz216 on 13 December 2007
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If FFVII gets remade, I say the PSP is the most likely, along with a plain port on the DS, mainly due to those systems having the lowest development costs, while still having potential for decent sales.

I'm pretty sure Sony has first dibs on the FFVII series being on their systems exclusively since they published the original game.


Eidos published FF7 on PC. So that alone proves Sony doesn't have exclusive publishing rights on it.


I meant that they had first dibs on it. I wouldn't be surprised if they were offered the opportunity to publish the PC version but turned it down, they probably thought there was a better way to spend their resources.


Do you have any proof that they have first dibs on future publishing or is this just wishful thinking? Cause publishing really doesn't work like that too often. Crissis Core could of went there because of poltic issues but if so i think it'd be more of the purchasing exclusivity kind, just like the did with the original FF7. After all Square published FF7 in Japan. I think it's more likely Sony just published in the US because Square wasn't willing to risk it's company publishing as many games as Sony wanted them too, or just couldn't. Sony likely just free rided it because they wanted it as a big game exclusive. Publishing games is a BIG risk considering how badly it can hurt you if you end up with too much extra inventory and Sony wanted Square to publish way more FF7 games then any other FF game. Who is going to risk their company just because another one asks them?


I have the same amount of proof as you, no one really knows what goes on behind closed doors. I am just going by what i interpret when i see that Sony, for some reason, continuously land FF7 games or movies on their side. Like i said, it may be back door politics and if it is, no one really knows what kind of agreement they have made in the past. But the logical move would have been to move away from Sony consoles to get as much as $ as possible using their number 1 money maker. S-E obviously has been in bed with Sony, there's no other way to explain the reasoning behind all their high budget games being put on Sony platforms. Oh yeah, there's also the fact that Sony owns about 8% stakes in S-E and helped make them into the huge company that they are today. I wouldn't be surpirsed if Sony knows exactly what properties S-E is developing before everyone else, and is always the first to get a chance bid or strike a deal... hell, that's probably why they have 8% in the first place. Anways, the question boils down to this: Does Sony have a deal in place to keep FF7 games on their platform?? No one has solid proof to officially say yes or no, but by the way the evidence looks, i don't see Square bringing FF7 to anyother platform (except cellphone) to anything else but Sony and i think the reasoning behind that is because Sony wants it that way whether they are convincing S-E or it's their decision.

EDIT: @Whitedevil: I'm not questioning the exclusivity of the future SE games. There's enough threads about FF13 going multiplatform on the web. My point is on the FF7 franchise and I think Sony is clearly influencing where that property ends up. Sony publishing FF7 for U.S and Europe was a HUGE deal, and it ultimately helped SquareSoft more than it did for Sony. Sony might not have a solid deal that allows them the rights to the FF7 franchise, but it's pretty obvious that they (sony) have a voice in the company or in terms of the FF7 franchise and apparently S-E listens.


The difference is, I'm not assuming anything. You are. Usual publishing deals don't involve the kind of exclusivity you are mentioning, and there is no real reason to think they would give away future rights to a game that was going to be big with or without Sonys help. Square didn't want to publish a lot in the US and Europe so Sony did it for them because Sony wanted it to be big for their system. A lot of people think FF1 made the playstation successful and put it over the top. Which in turn helped make the PS2 successful. Both companies made out like bandits. It's a simple as that. You can assume there is some behind the door dealings but there isn't any evidence of that, so it's mere conjecture.


If I'm wrong and there isn't any behind the door dealings then how do you explain S-E actions toward Sony? Loyalty? you can't be that blind. I am assuming that Sony somehow convinces S-E to continue to put priority towards their platform, you are arguing against me and based on your post, you believe S-E is making all their decisions without Sony whispering in their ear at all. You have no solid proof at all to put any substance behind that theory. You said it yourself, BOTH sides make out like bandits. But to think that SquareSoft only wanted to publish the game in Japan is VERY foolish. They knew the success of the game after the reception in Japan but did not have the resources to pull off a worldwide release without help. Sony happen to have the most resources at that time since Nintendo wasn't even in the picture. Also, when FF7 was in development, NO ONE knew it was going to outperform like it did. Heck, the only reason they moved to PlayStation was because of the whole stupid (yet important) CD vs Cartridge argument, If Nintendo knew FF7 was going to be that big they would have gave a flying shit when SS threatened to leave. Sony saw that as an opportunity and probably funded a good chunk of development to nail down publishing rights in the first place. How else would you explain the massive increase of staff and budget, SquareSoft wasn't nearly as rich as S-E is right now. Anyways, enough about the past. My point is simple, Sony has a vote/voice/say/etc. in SquareEnix. Based on the history, they probably have alot of stake in what goes with FF7. Sony are the ones that own a good chuck of S-E, not Microsoft, not Nintendo. With that being said, they are probably the ones that get to make a deal before anyone else notices, it's up to SquareEnix whether they accept it or not (business 101). Which leads back to what i said several post ago, Sony, in most likelihood has first dibs on FF7 property and that's why i'm certain we won't be seeing a FF7 game land anywhere but on a Sony platform (cept cellphone).


Final Fantasy games doing well in Japan don't nessesairly mean US success. All you are doing is making wild guesses with little reason behind them. I wouldn't be surprised if sony gets the right to try and purhase exclusivity if it was a PS3 remake. But that's about all I would exect them to get. To claim it's because of some sort of old publishing rights it silly though. Even in the cases where publishers get to maintain the rights it's usally a small timeframe, something like 5 years unless they own the IP, which they obviously don't, as they make FF games and the FF7 characters are owned by Square. It would be pretty unpresidented if that was the case. The reason Sony gets Preferential treatment when it comes to it's games is because the Final Fantasy branch of Square have become very huge on "Cinematic Gaming" and the Playstation brand always packs the most power. Also i'd guess they just assume that people who owned PSP's also owned PS2s... after all the Final Fantasy tactics remake also hit the PSP. Square has the luxuary of doing it this way because even on the PSP and PS3, Final Fantasy games will sell. So they can still have their Cinematic "flagship" and still make a profit on it, or atleast not that bad of a loss. To some developers bevlieve it or not, they feel they need one project that really stands out and shows the best of their "quality" even if it comes at a loss to keep their rep up. With Square they feel their strengths are really good graphics that make the game look like a movie. There are plenty of reason's Square would look to Sony first, but it's unlikely any of them have to do with some phantom publishing deal.