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Icyedge said:
Stanislav.Ten said:
Alright, just chipping in my two cents, I personally think that PS3 will not make it to 50M unless something major occurs. The high sales have occurred last year due to the major price cuts on Sony's behalf as well as the release of PS3 Slim, which was similar as to when Xbox 360 Elite was released, there was a sales boost and the momentum carried on forward for several months, then the sales had reverted back to normal. If Sony are to achieve the same sales this year they will have to;

a)Slash the prices again(Operating at a loss already, I do not think they can afford to do this unless they start charging for PSN or other PS3 features)

b)Release some major titles - GT5, GT5 not even having a release date would possibly indicate that it is highly doubtful that it will come out this year, *MIGHT* be in time for Christmas for the little boost of sales.

Following the "a" strategy, the price slash, Sony will begin to lose even more capital, making the PS3 a further disappointment, PS2 at the same period in it's lifecycle was currently at approx. 50m sales, whether this upsets Sony in a way or not I do not know. The slash in price will just cause more loss for the company and cause implications such as introduction of fees for services to get some of the lost capital back.

Following the "b" strategy is highly doubtful, as GT5 does not even have an official set deadline date it is highly unlikely, yet there is a chance that it will come out this year, if it comes out in times for Christmas then it can be bundled mad and advertised like crazy, but chances are by then it will be too late to regain the lost time due to the "stale" period in which nothing new will occur. I must admit last years PS3 lineup was amazing, this years.. Not so much. Everything that could have contributed majorly to the sales has already been released - GoW3, Heavy Rain etc, but we'll have to wait till E3 to find out whether there is anything exciting occurring in the year.

On the 360 front however, there is unrest as several exclusive titles have been announced, they'll most likely to be bundled up thus boosting the sales of the hardware, but that is irrelevant except that possible customer base will be lost for the PS3.

It's a tough decision, but I don't think that PS3 will reach the 50M mark, it MIGHT breach the 45M mark, but that is if something extraordinary occurs.

 

Care to give us this extended list? All companies are waiting for E3 right now, they all have about the same number of things announced. Also the situation is complexier than a point a or b. Your trying to write something logical but its written biase all over it. Like "the sales had reverted back to normal", we would need a serious discussion to define normal here. Or "Sony will begin to lose even more capital, making the PS3 a further disappointment", here your insinuating that the PS3 is a disappointment for Sony at the moment.

"The slash in price will just cause more loss for the company and cause implications such as introduction of fees for services to get some of the lost capital back." Slashing price and selling at a loss is part of their strategy from the start. Up until now it has never cause introduction of fees for services. Youre also making abstraction that at the moment they are loosing less on each console sold than at any moment and of the raising in software/accesories sales.

"but chances are by then it will be too late to regain the lost time due to the "stale" period in which nothing new will occur." Your starting with the prerogative that nothing new will be announced, and is exageration anyway.

"but we'll have to wait till E3 to find out whether there is anything exciting occurring in the year." Then why arent you suspending your judgment.

"It's a tough decision, but I don't think that PS3 will reach the 50M mark" It didnt seems like it was a tough deicision at all, there was nothing positive or neutral in your post.

Also you first claim that: "The high sales have occurred last year due to the major price cuts on Sony's behalf as well as the release of PS3 Slim", but 2 paragraph later you say "I must admit last years PS3 lineup was amazing, this years.. Not so much. Everything that could have contributed majorly to the sales has already been released". Game lineup was important or not? im not sure now.

Well off the top of my head I can recall a few exclusives that may be causing some of the "I might just get a 360 for this game.." sort of thing, Alan Wake - definitely now the PC version has been discontinued, Splinter Cell Conviction which came out during this week - yet to see the sales of the first week, Mass Effect 2, Halo Reach and the announcement of Gears 3, despite being just outside the end of the year during which the PS3 is predicted to sell 50m by the OP but still relatively close to that date(April 2011). If you think about it,

There is an exclusive game that have been postponed for the last 4 years, bound to be hyped beyond belief by now.

Splinter Cell Conviction, in development for several years now with a large fanbase, although the FPS element may turn some of them off..

Mass Effect 2, highly acclaimed by the critics, despite lower sales figures it is still a juggernaut in the making - really surprised at the sales, expected considerably higher.

Halo Reach - The halo series are the juggernauts of Xbox, bound to increase sales provided the Beta is as awesome as they are hyping it to be.

Gears 3 - Another 360 juggernaut, the highest selling exclusive on Xbox, bound to be hyped up beyond belief.

 

 

By normal I mean somewhere borderline 200-300k, if averaging such figures up until November it will only result in a sum of 300K*7= 2.1M sales until November, if PS3 averages 700k for the duration of the Christmas period(nov-jan) - around 2.1M on top and then 500K in Feb, 400k in March and etc. It will round up to around 4.6M in sales, which is a strange figure to myself personally as to how 13M were achieved I am confused. Not being biased here but I have no clue how the consoles are being sold in such high numbers - both on the 360 and the PS3 front when the average sales are amounting to around 300-350k a month. Either the sales are ridiculously overtracked or I am just not getting it.

Imo, the Game lineup has just encouraged those who were on the verge of buying PS3 as it is, contributed - but in the slightest, the price slashes and the introduction of "Better, slimmer" models have boomed the sales, I know several of my friends who have gotten rid of their Phats and purchased a Slim instead, for whatever reason I am not sure..

I am stating that nothing new will likely to be introduced that will rival the scale to that of GT5, sure there will be exclusives but nothing will be hyped to an extent that PS juggernaut would if it were to be announced for this years release. I am suspending the judgment in a sense that the PS3 MIGHT achieve similar sales to that of last year without the price slashes and the release of new model to back them up, but no way could the sales mark hit 50M by this time next year. - 45M maybe, not 50. E3 can influence the sales of the console, but not by such a large margin, 3M increase seems like a large mark, optimistic but not realistic.

 

P.S By "normal" sales I was insinuating around 200-300k averaging a month up until Christmas.



 

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