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slowmo on 15 April 2010
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Akvod said:
slowmo said:
Akvod, I've been very patient with you but might I be so bold as to suggest that there is a very simple reason so many people aren't "grasping" your thread. Quite simply you don't have a end goal for this discussion other than to hate on Conviction, that much is quite clear. You have from the first page insulted people who had a polar opposite viewpoint to yourself and not actually debated anything but tried to tell people they're wrong and it's your thread. Your OP is extremely disjointed and badly written with a over reliance on people watching videos which is ridiculous.

Let me sum up by saying you never had a valid point, its just a subjective opinion by each individual. I answered you question in my previous post and you just claimed you covered that in the OP, sorry but a debate doesn't work by you just saying lalalalala.

slowmo, I've been very patient with you. Let's accept that I made shitty points, and that I somehow only insult people for disagreeing.

But aren't you doing the same? Are you not simply saying "Akvod, you're wrong, you're a fanboy", without citing my post and pointing out specificly why it's wrong? This is exactly what I want, for you guys to bring up contrary evidence, and to engage in civil discourse. I've been "insulting" you guys, not for disagreeing with me, but for disagreeing with me without any substance.

It's a subjective opinion, but we can argue in an objective manner by agreeing upon a common criteria, and facts.

 

 

"The difference is many people realise gaming is a big business and companies want to make money.  If Ubisoft keep churning out the same old formula time after time with very little evolution then you end up getting to the stage Tomb Raider did, which is a steady but measurable decline in franchise quality until your IP is near enough worthless.

Perhaps this series reboot is a step in the right direction to bring in new fans and freshen up what was becoming an old IP.  I'm sorry you guys feel somehow "betrayed" by the direction taken but I'm 100% confident that its a decision taken in the best interests of the franchise being around for years to come, rather than just churn out the same old Sam to please the old timers."

You argued, I think at least, that Conviction is simply a change, and did not abandon the core gameplay. You also brought up irrelevant points about profitability, and whether change is good.

My question was, did Conviction depart from the core gameplay or not? You may have said "No", but you didn't back it up with any substance. Please point out what Conviction retain, and why you believe it's enough.

Your argument was based on that change is good, and shouldn't be opposed. I already covered in my OP that change is good, and shouldn't be opposed. So it was perfectly valid for me to go down on your ass for not properly reading my OP.

Try not insulting anyone for a start, then people might have been more willing to engage in debate with you.  I'm not the only person that has read this thread and got a distinct impression that you're not interested in changing your opinion at all, this might not be true but the perception you've given people means you'll not get the discussion you crave.  I'm done with your thread anyway so feel free to carry on, I doubt you'll be posting next week if you carry on in the manner you've posted up until now in here.