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zexen_lowe said:
MontanaHatchet said:
zexen_lowe said:
highwaystar101 said:

The Beatles are great. However, I would call anything pre-Rubber soul mediocre. It's just balanced out later by what I would consider as some of the greatest albums ever.

Yeah, I said that too, and they wanted to remove my Beatles fan card...influential, for sure, but save for a a dozen or so songs, it was forgettable

A dozen songs is quite a few. And they definitely weren't mediocre before Rubber Soul. I'm willing to argue this quite a bit.

But had Rubber Soul and what came after never happened, if they hadn't had that radical change and had kept the same pre-Rubber Soul style, they'd be only a minor fraction of what they are now...people would remember them as a very popular band with lots of hits, some good/great songs...and that's it. Fact is, post-Rubber Soul comes pretty much 90% of what The Beatles did to influence music. Maybe mediocre is too harsh, but it's not hard to see the pre-Rubber Soul era as average, or somewhat forgettable

Yes, but there's a difference between not being as good and being mediocre. The Beatles were hardly mediocre before Rubber Soul. That is, unless you consider songs like Yesterday, Help!, If I Fell, and I Saw Her Standing There average or mediocre. Sure, they wouldn't be as well remember without their career from Rubber Soul onwards. That's a given. But you also have to remember that The Beatles were insanely successful well before they stopped touring. Elvis didn't do much to innovate music (IN MY OPINION, AT LEAST!), and he is viewed as a cultural icon. Pre-Rubber Soul wasn't as great, sure, but it's was hardly forgettable or average.

And now for Highwaystar...