South African fossils could be 'new human ancestor'

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RockSmith372 said:
"Super Evolution" is completely illogical. For those who don't know what it is, it is an idea by biblical creationists that after Noah's Flood, each kind branched and speciated in 4,000 years into all the species that exist today. First off, the definition of kind is unknown and is generally used by creationists for subjective reasons to win an argument due to the fact that no one knows what it is. Answers in Genesis, a creationist organization, claims "kind" to be similar to the scientific term "family". The problem with this is that there are over 12,000 species of ants that are classified(there are potentially 22,000 ant species), meaning that at an average, 3 new species of ants should emerge every year. This has never been observed by science. Speciation takes long periods of time, unless of a freak accident which causes an animal to move into a new environment, and this would have to happen for every animal we know today. 4,000 years is not enough time to have the diverse life we see today.

Not to mention the obvious genetic bottle neck that everything would've moved through. The cheetah went through a major genetic bottle neck some thousands of years ago, and it's had major implications for the species as a whole. If every living thing went through a massive genetic bottle neck (saaay....2 of every "kind" whatever the hell a kind is), then the biosphere would look like a very different place than it does now, and our genes would look drastically different.

 

It's pointless to argue with people like slimebeast about evolution, they are a product of their culture, not their education. Try covincing a 90 year old white southern man that black people are equal to white people. Not to say that religious people are racists, that is not the parellel I'm getting across. Rather the point is it's just drilled in culturally, no matter how common sense it may be to the rest of modern society. Trying to argue with religious people as a means of convincing them is an act of beating one's head against a wall. When they are 90 years old and it's considered as obvious as black white equality that evolution is true, they will still say that god made all things according to their kind. It's just part of the cultural. The only beneficial reason for having the argument is to continue moving the cultural zeitgeist in the direction of reason, so that next generation will think it's wierd that you'd take a myth written by an ancient primitive race of mysogenistic  genocidal barbarians as being a fact, just as todays children think it's wierd that any body would have a problem with having a black president. So argue if you want, but be fully aware that your target isn't the one you're arguing with, but culture as a whole. Getting the information out there so that everyone still capable of reasoning can see it.