NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
I think it's less cultural and more size based. It's eaiser to implement this stuff in smaller countries.
If you'll notice all the model "left leaning" countries are very small. Countries like UK and France try to copy them, it tends to not work out and they have to come up with their own less efficient systems.
For us it'd be problematic since the place they are put has to be like an island... also we'd need enough islands for our giant prison population when our island to landmass ratio is no doubt a lot smaller.
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Deprivatizing the prison system would be a good start. Then reallocate 10% of the military budget to educational programs.
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You want to reallocate 10% of the military budget to educate criminals. I'm assuming that 10% also is going to cover the cost of prison? The problem being though... education spending in the US tends to not work... ironically because of how it's done with public schools. Though really, nobody seems to do it well. There is a reason why private schools get better results and pay less.
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Education spending in the U.S. doesn't work because right-wingers usually control the purse strings (one way or another) and purposely fuck things up just so they can say "SEE, IT DOESN'T WORK!"
Get those fuckers out of the equation and I guarantee you it will work.
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Sure.. that's why even in states that democrats are in control of it doesn't work. I'm trying to have an actual conversation here, not a blind idealouge war... if your not up for that, please let me know so i'm not wasting my time. Another issue that comes up is due to the extra 18,500 spent per inmate that likely wouldn't be enough to cover the educational needs... this brings the amount we spend per inmate to 38,500 a year. Median Per capita income is 46,000. Considering the expenses are actually likely to be higher then 18,500 per prisoner we may end up spending more on each prisoner then the average man makes. |
5% of the world's population, 25% of the world's prison population...
In the "land of the free" how can that be possible? Because the U.S. is enthralled by a fucked-up right-wing authoritarian ideology.
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Well... A that 25% of the world's prison population is a debatable statistic considering a number of countries probably aren't giving the real number... and B... rather pointless since a lot of countries just outright kill criminals in giant rates unlike the US who while we have the death penalty it's not used that much... and it takes years to be used rather then... "well your caught." Addtionally criminality is a LOT more complicated then your "lets blame it on the republicans" reason.
I'd suggest reading outliers... or maybe it was blink... one of those books has an interesting piece on how cultural legacy can actually effect you. There is no "overnight" fixing of crime... and US crime rates have less to do with poltical history and more to do with cultural history. The USA is a young nation... that still has some "frontier mentality" not to mention African Americans cultural history of well... being screwed by authority HARD. Also, immigrants from poorer countries whose cultural history is to not trust the authorities. These are things that can't be fixed by simply "booting out the republicans."
