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NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
I think it's less cultural and more size based. It's eaiser to implement this stuff in smaller countries.

If you'll notice all the model "left leaning" countries are very small. Countries like UK and France try to copy them, it tends to not work out and they have to come up with their own less efficient systems.

For us it'd be problematic since the place they are put has to be like an island... also we'd need enough islands for our giant prison population when our island to landmass ratio is no doubt a lot smaller.

Deprivatizing the prison system would be a good start. Then reallocate 10% of the military budget to educational programs.


You want to reallocate 10% of the military budget to educate criminals.  I'm assuming that 10% also is going to cover the cost of prison?  The problem being though... education spending in the US tends to not work... ironically because of how it's done with public schools.  Though really, nobody seems to do it well.  There is a reason why private schools get better results and pay less.

Also i'm not sure 68 billion a year would be enough to pay for the prisons being public and education of the prisoners.  I think California spends like... 48 billion just for their elementry schools... and they don't have to incarcerate them 24/7, put up firewalls, hire techno security staff to make sure the prisoners aren't abusing the internet, hacking, getting around the firewalls... etc.

Going the norway model each prisoner would need his own computer... we have what? 2.5 million prisoners in the US? That's $18,500 a piece... doesn't seem like enough money at all... for the added cyber security and increase in costs to the government.