Kenryoku_Maxis said:
dunno001 said:
RageBot said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
dunno001 said:
I personally never gave up SNES RPGs. I'm still buying them, still playing them. For me personally, it was the pinnacle of RPGs. Sure, there are some good ones from PS1 and onward, but the overall quality wasn't as high.
Oh, and dtewi, yes, I would take FF1 over the current gen RPGs. I'd also take FF1 over any of the PS1 or later FF games. |
Someone needs to play Suikoden I-III, Paper Mario/Thousand Year Door, Final Fantasy VIII, Legend of Mana, Chrono Cross and well, any Dragon Quest ever made.
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Yeah, Suikoden 1-3 are amazing as a trilogy, Cross is also incredible.
I will personaly recommend Xenogears, Valkyrie Profile, Wild Arms 1 and 3 and Vagrant Story.
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Except that you both have the same flaw: spanning multiple systems, hell, even multiple eras. As for the ones you both mention:
-Suikoden: finished 1, 2-5 + Tactics are backlogged.
-Paper Mario series: Backlogged on VC and disks.
-FF8: Complete and total crap. I played too much of it for my tastes. I'd rather be stuck playing FPS games than this. (And I'm not an FPS fan.)
-Legend of Mana: Backlogged, though with little interest.
-Chrono Cross: More crap, and it insults fans of Trigger. (And mind you, Trigger is one of the SNES greats.)
-Dragon Quest: You're telling this to someone whose second RPG was DQ1 from Nintendo Power? (The first, for the record, was a Swordquest game.) And to someone who has played every DQ through 8, and who will be getting 9 and 10 upon US release? Not to mention... where do you think DQ5 and DQ6 started?
-Xenogears: Eh, I started this game, but it didn't really hold my interest. I might go back, but there's just too many other games backlogged.
-Valkyrie Profile: Backlogged.
-Wild Arms: Almost finished 1 (going to college delayed me), 2-5 + Alter Code F backlogged.
-Vagrant Story: Another game that really isn't interesting me, based on what I've seen of the mechanics.
Now, reread my original post. I did say that there were some good games post the SNES days. But as an average, a typical RPG wasn't as good after the SNES. The PS2 got some kickass ones, mostly from Atlus, but also brought the crap known as the Final Fantasy series. It also introduced episodic RPGs at a price a tad too high. (FF4:TAY got it right, .Hack didn't.) But, finding a bad RPG on the SNES was actually a chore. I'd have to stop and think if I could find one... |
Well, you also need to look at your own post and understand that 'opinion' and 'fact' are two different things. And as I've already said, the SNES had some of the best JRPGs out there. But there was still plenty of great JRPGs following the SNES. I can't account for the fact that you think half of them are crap, but that's your opinion.
And just speaking out to your major points, I'm a huge fan of Chrono Trigger (one of my 5 favorite RPGs) and I still think Chrono Cross was fantastic and one of the three best RPGs on the PSX. Just because a sequel isn't the same exact thing doesn't make it crap. Likewise, I consider Final Fantasy VIII to be the best game in the series to this day, in large part because it tried to be different and focus on a lot of character customization and a character focused story. The exact opposite of most Final Fantasy games. Which I understand is a major negative to many FF fans, but a major plus for me. |
