joeorc said:
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greenmedic88 said:
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It was in the best intrests of the majority to remove a feature the majority never used and therefore were never at risk of anything... by screwing over a minority of people who used this and who are the only people effected.
Yeah... ok Sony.
People who think Sony doing this is a positve need a major reality check.
Hell this isn't even going to slow down piracy, if anything it will probably lead to a piracy solution quicker because Sony decided to anatagonize people who use Linux on the PS3... aka hackers... and also basically threw down a gauntlet to a bunch of other people.
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Hardly matters.
First, there are no PS3s being produced that run Linux.
Second, the vast majority of owners who have an older PS3 will simply update the firmware with no regard for the loss of Linux as they, like the vast majority of PS3 owners, had no intention of ever installing Linux.
Add to these the older PS3s that are no longer working.
Ultimately, you're left with a shrinking number of consoles that are capable of having a hardware hack installed on an older console that can run Linux.
Net result: it makes a slightly larger niche market for old PS3s among the small community of users determined to play pirated games.
When found, this solution does nothing for the vast majority of PS3 owners who don't have an older PS3, aren't running Linux, don't have the hardware modifications made to their console and of course the simplest part of playing pirated games: don't have a PC with a BD burner and a stack of BD media.
You're left with a pretty insignificant number of potential pirates who have to leap through quite a few hoops just to play pirated games.
So someone gets a working solution to play pirated games on a software and hardware hacked PS3. Congrats. Really; congrats. It will have taken almost four years. The only benefit for the general public wlll be the inevitable Youtube videos displaying the achievement since it won't help all but a tiny niche of people who are very dedicated to playing pirated games.
SCE isn't concerned with this tiny niche of people that will go through more trouble than it's worth simply because they can.
They're concerned with general piracy among regular consumers who wouldn't have to do anything more than pay their local hardware hacker $50 to install a mod chip and supply them with $10 burned games.
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Actually no. I mean people will work to find a way to hack the actual PS3. Or even find a way to reset and/or customize the firmware like PSP.
So instead of only old phat systems being able to pirate for the small amount of people who want to find an old PS3 to pirate... they open it up to where every PS3 may end up being pirateable.
Other OS was actually a good diversion to keep the hackers on.
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As soon as it happens, and we see current production PS3s running pirated games, feel free to make a thread about it.
By the time we see a $50 mod chip and $10 BD burned games, the PS3 will be in its twilight years.
I'm not holding my breath and neither should you.
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Couldn't I say the same to you? Afterall there is NOT an actual hack that lets you play PS3 games via Other OS yet.
Which in of itself doesn't get around the fact that Sony is taking a feature away from the innocent that was already paid for, simply because someone else may abuse it.
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No, because I'm not waiting for a hardware or software hack for the PS3. I buy games.
Even though I have a 60GB BC SKU running 3.20 firmware that I don't need to update because it's not my only PS3. If I want to use that to run Linux for whatever reason, I can.
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i can fully agree with that situation ,while i also have multiple PS3's i know if i wanted to keep linux on my 60gb or 40 GB i can, i stll have my Slim for game's
some people may say i should not have to buy a second PS3 for a function I already paid good money for, on the same token I should not have to deal with hacker's making a system less secure because they felt the security and encryption should be open to everyone!
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I agree with both of those. Both sony and the hackers are wrong.
I'm guessing you didn't understand that article you posted though? It wasn't about people hacking into other peoples PS3s.
It was about people using PS3s to hack into regular computers... because of the PS3's processing power and great number crunching.
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no i understood it completly.
way to twist what i post this could infact be used to do the same on other people's PS3's
like i said this is just not about PSN only and it does not have to be.
it was about hacking even salted encryption to gather credit card info using a PS3. for example you used to be able to use a flash drive to load a BD-java application on it that allowed you to run nintendo game rom's on the PS3. sony removed the ability to use that flash card ability to use it for that.
this is also why sony is going that route.
the curreent Other OS that the PS3 only support's is Linux, if Sony did not do anything to prevent the use of the PS3 being used in this manner when they know it could with Linux installed, Now that Geohot has opened other PS3's security in some fashion, this could be used to hack other PS3's remotely better due to this hack.
where is quite a number of PS3's at anyone time on PSN
it's about what would a prudent man do in a situation:
example:
prudent-man rule
standard adopted by some U.S. states to guide those with responsibility for investing the money of others. Such fiduciaries (executors of wills, trustees, bank trust departments, and administrators of estates) must act as a prudent man or woman would be expected to act, with discretion and intelligence, to seek reasonable income, preserve capital, and, in general, avoid speculative investments. States not using the prudent-man system use the legal list system, allowing fiduciaries to invest only in a restricted list of securities, called the legal list.
since Geohot's hack is a Vector in:
he even admits his hack can lead to pirated software. the question what else can it lead too?
this is from one of the hacker's that Geohot talk's to on a board:
As ppl have said, Sony did not include support for installing linux (OtherOS) onto slim PS3s. This exploit requires software running on the PS3 which is what linux is used for.
once again what would a
prudent man do?
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