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NinjaguyDan said:
Kasz216 said:
NinjaguyDan said:

This is the kind of subject that exposes the authoritarian mindset.

Authoritarian: "Punish them"; "They deserve to suffer"; "Let 'em rot"...

You treat someone like an animal, they become an animal. (or worse)

Criminals are broken people, you can't fix them by slamming them into the ground.

It is a tough line to tread though.


For example, a woman who kills her husband for being abusive.  Is she ever going to kill again?  Not unless she gets another abusive husband.

So... should she got to jail?  Is she really "broken" in a way that should keep her out of society outside of needing some counsling sessions for PTSD?

The only reasons to put her in jail would be punishment and to prevent other abused women from killing their husbands right?


Mother kills a woman because that woman killed her son.  Is she ever going to kill again?  Not unless she has another son or daughter murdered.  So... should she go to jail?

One Woman kills another because that woman killed her daughter.... 

One man kills a woman because that woman killed her mother. 

 

As I'm sure you've guessed.  This is all two familys... it's a chain.  Prison IS to punish as well as rehibilitate.  It's a matter to draw a line of which crimes deserve to be punishment heavy, and which deserve to be rehibilitation heavy.

Prison is just a warehouse of broken people. How would you feel if you took your car to a mechanic then get it back five years later in worse condition while having to pay $50,000 a year for it?

In the U.S. there is NO rehabilitation, that would cost too much and cut into the profits of the thriving private prison industry.  The very same private prison industry that spent MILLIONS lobbying to increase the sentences of minor drug offenders.  Also, the same private prison industry that WILL SPEND MILLIONS trying to defeat the only rational solution (legalization) to the drug problem.

Thank you for completly ignoring the actual questions preventend and going off on a strawman tangent.

Those people listed above aren't broken.  They are valuable members of society that committed murder once, do to very understandable circumstances and putting them in priosn actually makes them LESS valuable to society.  Even with the perfect prison system.

Does this mean they shouldn't go to jail?  Jail clearly isn't JUST a warehouse of broken people or meant soley for rehibilitation.