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TheRealMafoo said:
mirgro said:

I have no problem with them making money. I have a problem with how they make their money, They make their money the way Harley Davidson saved their comapny, by making it some sort of symbol. I generally associate such fickleness and, for a lack of better word, stupidity with the markets of fashion, jewellery, and so on and so forth, not with technology. I also do not want such bullshit into the technology market because that is when quality stops being top priority. Somehow spinning a closed platform to be a positive, not a negative, is a perfect example of quality going out the window.

Them trying to sue anything and everythign that won't sue them back is not helping their case either, they are far worse than Microsoft in their attempts to create a monopoly, and I abhor Microsoft.

Well, not sure I agree with your assessment.

Harley Davidson sells nothing more then an image. I can not think of a single area of Motorcycling where they are the "best". They sell an image. People buy them simply because they want one. There is no objectivity involved at all.

I am a geek, and love geek stuff. I don't care about image, or brands. The cloths I ware to work are mostly 15 years old. The shirt in my picture I still ware, and I think I bought it at Target 5 years ago. 

Let's look at the 17" Mac Book Pro:

  • It's made out of one piece of machines aluminum. This makes it the most ridged 17" laptop on the market.
  • it's less then 1" think. This makes it the thinest 17" laptop in the world.
  • it has over 8 hours of battery life. this makes it one of the longest (if not the longest) running 17" laptop in the world.
  • It weighs 6.6 pounds. This makes it one of the lightest 17" laptops in the world.
  • it has 1920x1200 resolution LED backlit screen. There is no better looking screen on a 17" laptop.

Now you pay a lot for it, but what your buying is not style. It's substance. if those things are important to you, there is no better laptop made, by anyone.

Depending on what you want, Apple might not have a product for you, but if your interested in say, taking a 17" laptop on the road a lot, and needing great battery life, and it be very rugged, and display images at a very high quality, there is nothing better on the market.

Harley Davidson can not say that about anything they sell. That's why they have the slogan "if you have to ask, you won't understand".

What % of people who bought the new Macbooks, I guess they aren't so new at this point in time, actually bought it to travel around with? 17" is still a large area, so they are not your compact netbooks. I also know they come in larger sizes, nixing the portability argument even further. I have a 21", or maybe 22" Windows laptop, and not once have I ever wished it was thinner or lighter. I have always wished that it was smaller by area, or had better battery because after over 3 years it's down to about 50 minutes and I'm too lazy to get a new one. The macbooks address only one main issue of this notebook, which was also cheaper than comparably specced macbooks from its time. If you try to tell me that the macbooks back then sold as much as they did solely because of their portability, before the recent redesign, then I would call you a bullshitter. They sold because of a symbol. I feel like this paragraph is unreadable, but it's way late here sorry.

That also doesn't explain the tower PCs they manage to sell all over the place. They are still priced highly over similarly specced machines not sold by Apple and their ebenfits are even more marginal.