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rubido said:

If two people run to get to a goal, it's a race. If two boats try to get to a goal faster, it's a race. If karts try to get to a goal faster, it's a race. Mario Kart has always been a racing game and the best one at that. No weird logic you make up will remove Mario Kart from this genre.

Good point. But fans of either GT or Forza still will draw a line between sims and arcades just to keep beloved game from competition of the game that far superior to them in fun factor. Just look at how defensive people get when they struck by the same weapon by PC elitists and racing sim enthusiasts who reasonably claim superioty of bunch of more detailed racing sims in what they do better than GT and Forza - simulating a racing car. Still both games are good for those in between - realistic presentation and environment with relatively simplistic physic model = arcadey gameplay and cult following.