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jarrod said:
Sim racers put me to sleep. But then I grew up on stuff from Sega, Namco and Nintendo. Sega Rally, Ridge Racer and F-Zero are what get my blood pumping.

Among my friends who are really *really* into sims though, Simbin (GTR/Race series) is king. They kinda look down on GT and Forza, too "casual console" for them.

BTW it might be a good place to ask. Where exactly do Gran Turismo and Forza games fit in this comparison of racing simulators? I never was able to find this kind of info on GT and Forza games. Maybe some sim racing enthusiast in here could answer this question?