Greenberg: Publishers 'struggle' on Wii

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Garnett said:

SaviorX said:

Garnett said:

CGI-Quality said:

Legend11 said:

huaxiong90 said:

Legend11 said:
He's basically saying the same thing we've heard many times from third parties. EA, Activision, Ubisoft, and others simply aren't seeing the sales they should be seeing on the Wii considering its marketshare.

At the end of the day it's better for third parties to have Microsoft dominant over both Nintendo and Sony since it takes a smaller share of total game sales when compared to the other two. Nintendo sees third parties as direct competitors while Sony has made it obvious they're working on building first parties at the expense of third parties (reduction in moneyhats, etc).

Thanks for helping me prove my point.  Imagine what that chart would look like if the 360 was the one with an installed base of 69.56 million and the Wii had 39.06 million.

"What ifs" are pointless though:

What if the PS3 started the gen @ $299? Would the 360 have as much 3rd party support as it currently does?

What if the Wii hadn't taken off in the first place? Would it be in the same position it is currently in?

What if the 360 had been the only console on the market for longer than a year? Would the PS3 and Wii have had even stronger launch line-ups to combat with?

Bottomline is, he spouts this stuff like the Wii is doing poorly. It may not have the same 3rd Party strength as the 360, but it's certainly not doing as bad as he's implying.

I agree sorta.

 

The graph says that 360 fans buy as almost the same amount of games as Wii fans do, and the Wii has double the sales the 360 does.

Does this mean that most Wii owners put the Wii away after a few weeks after use? I just asking questions.

 

The Wii has somehow managed to sell more software without dependence on any of the blockbuster franchises save for...1 (Monster Hunter 3)

The 360 literally has every big series out there.

Even so the 360 sells just about the same amount of software as the Wii. Without the bundled Wii spots and Mario games do you think the Wii would even be near the 360? I highly doubt it. 

 

The Wii depends on Mario games or a exercise related games.

If we look at the top 10 games sold this week, the Wii has Wii sports at number 4, but only because it was bundled since day 1. 

Number 6 is a Mario game.

Number 10 is a exercise  game.

 

Just Dance has sold over 2 million copies, and it sold 100,000 this week. The game has a 49 ranked on metacritic. Clearly a bad game but manages to sell.

 

 

 

 

Okay, since we're talking 3rd party sales:

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=30478.msg581036#msg581036

There you go, now start listing all those amazing awesome 3rd party games that would sell 1 million + on PS360.

That horrible pathetic abomination of a list should be all the reason anyone needs as to why 3rd parties are failing horribly on the Wii. Looking for a genuinely good game in that pile of trash is like trying to find a virgin in a whorehouse. And no non-port 90+ rated games. Not a single one.

As far as Just Dance: go look at the user ratings. Yes lots of badly reviewed and badly selling games are also hated, but people who actually buy the game love it.

3rd parties fail in the Wii because they deserve to fail. It's not the install base, it's not some magic weird rule. What you should be saying is "holy shit, Just Dance sold over 2 million, imagine what a GOOD game could sell!"

Sadly we'll never know because 3rd parties won't release one. My guess is 10-20 million is well within in the realm of possibility. (but again, we'll never know)