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wholikeswood on 04 April 2010
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I saw this article and thought: I'm not touching it with a 100 ft pole.

He'd better lay off the Wii as it will continue to demolish his and Sony's precious babies at retail.

How Wii hardware is performing has absolutely nothing to do with what Greenberg was talking about (3rd party publisher success with the console).

I'm well aware of that, and it doesn't matter. I said nothing wrong. Why not ACTUALLY contribute to the conversation?

And why the Hell do you always stalk my posts?

You entered a thread about Wii 3rd party software, made an entirely irrelevant and gratuitous point about Wii hardware, and you're criticising my contribution?

Irony really is a wonderful thing.

Why are you so annoyed by it? He made a bold statement, yet ironically his console is being destroyed by the console he's speaking down about. Doesn't matter what he says, I acknowledge that.

Something tells me had I not added Sony in there, you wouldn't have bothered quoting me. You only stalk my posts when I say something against Sony.

It *would* be ironic if he were talking down about the Wii. But he's not; he's talking about Wii 3rd party software. You're trying to bring it all into the same bracket in order to make your first post seem relevant, but the truth is your first post wasn't pertinent and over-simplifying the situation (i.e. acting like a criticism of 3rd party software is the same as a criticism of the Wii console itself) won't change that.

And shame on you for taking the cheap option and trying to discredit me with the fanboy ad hominem, CGI; I thought you were better than that. You made an obviously off-topic and unnecessary point in defence of the Wii (no doubt to remind people how non-partisan you are, as equally pro-Wii as pro-PS3 and pro-360, etc, etc, etc), so I picked you up on it.

Is that so? Why are you the only one so hell-bent on finding a conspiracy here?

The first post was simple. IF the 3rd party support he speaks of is so important, and the Wii is "struggling", why is his console not taking it out? If you're going to make a claim like that, you need to show how it's worked in your favor, otherwise it is known as "PR bullshit" on the internet. Rather than going there, I made my post quite simple: A system with "struggling" 3rd Party support doesn't seem to be in any significant trouble because of it. My example: it's competitors aren't any closer to stopping it while it's continuing to "struggle".

Why is he saying something like this? Can you explain?

And, call it a cheap shot, whatever, but I am acknowledging a trend here. Recently, when something not favoring Sony comes from me, I've seen you on assault mode and it's annoying. Why'd you deliberatley ignore all of my other posts in here?

||| It's very frustrating when I ask you to stop blurring the line between the 'Wii' and the 'Wii's 3rd party' and then you continue to deliberately confuse the two by twice acting as though Greenberg said the 'Wii is struggling' when he explicitly said 'Wii 3rd party' is struggling. It's also embarrassing for you, because you make sloppy mistakes like contradicting yourself in the same paragraph - 'Wii is struggling' yet also 'Wii doesn't seem to be in any significant trouble'! Your rhetorical question as to why the 360 can't catch the "struggling" Wii is a completely disingenuous one too, because the Wii isn't struggling, but rather its 3rd party is. You're just being deceptive. You know you wouldn't have an argument if you were to phrase it honestly as "why can't the 360 catch a Wii that is neither struggling nor in any significant trouble?".

||| Greenberg has shown time and again (cf. just about any NPD reaction he's ever released) that the 360 has incredibly strong 3rd party software sales and as we've seen over the last 6-9 months developers have been reallocating resources by stepping away from the Wii somewhat and investing further in the HD consoles, and as a result we are seeing a greater level of 3rd party support and a greater stream of critically-acclaimed 3rd party titles for the 360 than even before. That is how a focus on 3rd party relations has worked in Microsoft's favour, and Greenberg has consistenly pointed towards this cooperation and how it has worked in Microsoft's favour.

||| There was absolutely no mention of Sony in my first post, nor has there been mention of them in any subsequent post from me in this thread. The reason? This was never about Sony. It was only ever about your wide-of-the-mark defence of the Wii on the first page. Your repeated attempts to marginalise my position in this thread by harassing me with conspiracy/Sony fanboy accusations are as transparent as they are unfounded. I advise you to debate properly with me because at the minute you're hurting your reputation, not mine; you're the only one bringing up Sony...