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hsrob said:
Mazty said:

...That's not an answer.

I've played Mario Karts, the sports games, party games, NSMB wii, SSBB and a few others.

What hardcore games would you recommend I should play? You offered and I'm willing to listen, so if you could answer your own proposal that'd be ace.

Ok, before we go anywhere, what was your problem with Mario Kart Wii and SSBB?  Secondly, what sports games have you already played on the Wii? 

The reason I didn't give you straight answer to your question is because you have spent 6 pages not really listening to other people's answers to your questions.

Mario Kart wii was just like all the other Mario Karts (other than double dash for the obvious reason), and having played Mario Karts since the Snes, it's getting pretty damn repetative, not to mention the BS of the blue shell rendering the game into either pure luck, or just grab the motorbike, stay in second, and wheely to the end.

Compare to something like WipeoutHD, the game has barely improved whatsoever in any considerable way.

SSBB is just a cluster **** of particle effects and pad mashing. Same as the others, and no way near as deep as a game like Naruto: Gekitō Ninja Taisen! 4 for the GC. Plus some of the levels are just ****** awful, but some do look nice. But still, bugger all improvement since the last, and hardly a benchmark game when games from the generation before it are far, far better (N:GNT4).

The sports games I have played are wii sports, wii fit, sonice olympics or whatever mascot: olympics and an actual olympics game, as well as an F1 game and a kiddy golf game. A lot of the sports games just use wii gestures which renders the immitation part of the sport as BS, while giving tear inducing crappy graphics.
That said I haven't used wii motion plus BUT my point still remains about wii gestures instead of real space tracking, and a trade off of graphics for pad movement, when the game is meant to be an immitation, so somewhat of a moot point because the closer you get to moving like the real thing, the game looks hardly like the real thing, whereas it's the opposite on the HD consoles.

Other peoples answers have been "hardcore gamers like the wii because it has hardcore games". Ive yet to be told what these games are.

Also i've been told that hardcore gamers like the wii because it is innovative as it offers a steering wheel and lightgun. Last I checked these accessories were available on all the consoles. Therefore how can it be innovative when it's not offering anything new?