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Mazty said:
vaio said:
Mazty said:
vaio said:
Mazty said:

And guess what none of you guys did? Answer my question, that's what.
So without digressing please name me a game on the wii which is seen as the benchmark for that genre across all platforms.

PS. Morrowinds draw distance on PC was still awful, Zelda is an RPG as you are role playing as another character, plus does Oblivion not have action, adventure/battle gameplay, and exploration as well as dungeons etc? It's like saying you can't compare Killzone and Halo as one has aliens and vehicles, the other does not, which of course is a damn stupid point. And to claim the HD consoles have done nothing that hasn't been done on PC is rubbish as Resistance 2 had a new weapon selection system, roamin way points, new co-op play etcDont know about the weapon system but the rest have been done on pc, Killzone 2 introduced changing game types mid-battle, class selection with primary and secondary perks that could be mixed etc they improved on something that existed in some form or other on pc before. Gears of War made the cover-system shooter work, They improved the cover system did not bring or invent it Uncharted is the most film-like games can get for now film like games have been done for a long time on pc, Heavy Rain is great and immersive storytelling unlike any game before it and so on. Plus both consoles, but more the PS3, introduced media hubs to lounges, with easy PC streaming pc media hubs existed before hdconsoles, not to mention BLURAY with the PS3. bluray is just more storage nothing else that can be used in games Saying the consoles did nothing shows how little you know of what you talk about.This is the last time i will respond to any pc argument you have as I am not interested in pc and we were talking about consoles untill you tried to divert with pc when your arguments fail

Saying all those things except bluray has not been done on pc shows how little of a gamer you are and that you are no serious one either except when it comes to better graphics.

Why are you avoiding to prove your claims?

 

We have given you links and eamples to all your questions you had before this one now its your turn to provide us with links to all your claims.

in case you forgot:

dont avoid proving your claims and show us some links to support them.

Show proof of 180ms lag. Allready failed at this and only proving that you talk out of your ass.

Show me proof that hardcore gamers are not buying the wii, there are lots of proof otherwise just on this site and users here and by me posting.

Show proof that most wii´s are collecting dust

You are not getting of that easy we have provided you with answers and examples and just because you dont agree doesnt mean that they are not valid.

So show some proof instead of whinning like a butthurt little kid.

When you have done this we can continue the discussion.

Wow you clearly have never played Resistance 2, Killzone 2 or many PC FPS if you think it has been done all before. Thanks for helping to back my claim that many wii owners are not real gamers.

I said "Gears of War made the cover-system shooter work", not that it invented it, so why did you say that?

No, film-like games have not been done on PC in the way Uncharted was done. Stop talking about games you have clearly never played.
PC media hubs did exist before console hubs BUT they were massive/needed a PC hooked to the TV which is far more awkward than using a console which both have wireless pads.

Bluray allows larger games and HD films, so yeah, that's doing something for entertainment and helping to progress gaming as multiple DVD's is not beneficial for devs and has already limited games (e.g. Rage).

Why seperate consoles and PC? Both play games and both have genres which are across all platforms. For what arbitrary reason are you seperating PCs from consoles?

You clearly have **** all idea about gaming as you claim all the games out on the 360 and PS3 have been done before which is blatant trash talk. It's clear you have very little knowledge of what the consoles offer and what games specifically offer in comparison to other games.

Why do I need to show you evidence about wii's collecting dust? My point was that if Nintendo made a new console which was simply a wii with better hardware it would not sell as no serious gamer would play on a wii, as it offers no benchmark games. It's like showing you a photo of the blue sky then you asking for proof.

You claim that wii games are intuitive, and therefore for hardcore gamers so please, which games are so intuative they are seen as benchmarks for their genre?

PS. It's nothing shy of hilarious I've been asking the same question for many pages and you've yet to actually give a straight reply.

Still avoiding those liks are we? Your goalpost moving is hilarious please continue makes good weekend humor.

So where are the links or are we going to pull more numbers out of your gamer wannabe ass?

What links??

What goalposts? You are just saying this allowing you to avoid your point.

Fact is you have yet to show why a hardcore gamer would have a wii on the basis of it's games, which is my whole point of my point that a simple hardware improvement would not help nintendo. I have shown you but you just ignore I hve proven everything you say false, irrelevant or blatant lies.

Show me something that supports your claim that a hardcore gamer doesnt, I am proof that what you claim is false and if that is not enough there are plenty of gamers and hardcore gamers here at this site that have a wii.

So unless you can support your claim there is no reason to discuss it, not discussing claims pulled out of your ass

in case you forgot:

dont avoid proving your claims and show us some links to support them.

Show proof of 180ms lag. Allready failed at this and only proving that you talk out of your ass.

Show me proof that hardcore gamers are not buying the wii, there are lots of proof otherwise just on this site and users here and by me posting.

Show proof that most wii´s are collecting dust

You are not getting of that easy we have provided you with answers and examples and just because you dont agree doesnt mean that they are not valid.

So show some proof instead of whinning like a butthurt little kid.

When you have done this we can continue the discussion.



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