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thismeintiel on 03 April 2010
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dsister44 said:
thismeintiel said:

You honestly see a difference?  Do you have proof that the people who modded their 360's were pirates?  Did MS?  No.  They just knew they had modded their system, which as far as I know is not illegal.  Who knows why they did it.  Maybe to use HDD that MS didn't put out themselves.  Or to run Linux.  It doesn't really matter, they were refused a feature from MS, one they actually pay for (unlike PSN).  Or even worse, what about the banning of third-party memory cards just because they could POSSIBLY use them to hack the system.  Of course, this just hurts those who used them justly.  There is no difference.

First let's make sure we are on the same page. Are you talking about when MS locked people out of their hard drives?

And you are asking for proof on how MS knew they were hacking? Well, I don't know the fact that they were all playing CoD: Modern Warfare 2, two weeks before release had something to do with it...

And are you really comparing the removal of something that was originally on consoles to the removal of an unauthorized third party memory card?


They didn't lock them out of their hard drives.  They banned their consoles (and anyone who purchaed those consoles used) from Live, a service they were paying for.  And some may have been playing illegal games, but I doubt all 1 mil of them were.  A lot just used it to run Linux and/or use a larger, cheaper HDD than what MS supply.  Though, we really have no proof of what all of them were doing and MS has not revealed any proof that they may or may not have had.  Either way, this means that MS took a feature away that they payed for, to stop a few that would pirate games (though really it doesn't stop them from pirating games, just playing online).  How is that any different than Sony taking away a feature to stop those who would pirate games?  It really isn't.  The only difference is Sony did it before the PS3 was actually hacked.  Should they have just waited till it was hacked, so it would be ok in your eyes?  Of course not.  They are protecting their interests, just like MS did.

And no the third party memory card isn't on the exact same level as taking away PS3 Linux, but it is similar.  It's still taking away the ability to use whatever memory card you wish on YOUR system.  Again it hurt the ones who just use them for legit reasons, to stop piracy.  Like Sony did with Linux.