Sony's Removal of "Other OS" May Be Against EU Law

[joeorc]

r505Matt said:

joeorc said:

Damnyouall said:
Do I have to spell everything out for you? Obviously the blog is there to keep the complaints in one place rather than have people complain everywhere. You have to pretty gullible to belive Sony would return Other OS just because people complain; after all we did complain and they removed it anyway.

And about your above quote, do you even read what you post?
"It is quite possible someone will package this attack into a modchip since the glitch, while somewhat narrow, does not need to be very precisely timed. With a microcontroller and a little analog circuitry for the pulse, this could be quite reliable. However, it is more likely that a software bug will be found after reverse-engineering the dumped hypervisor and that is what will be deployed for use by the masses."

Once an exploit is found, the Other OS won't be needed to use it. That's why those of us who get it (apparently a minority) say that it makes absolutely no sense to remove it at this point.

so if it does not matter to complain, because Sony removed it anyway, why would it matter to have all the complaints all over the place, unless you want to draw more attention to the matter and apply pressure to sony for what?

what compensation would you want?

your money back?

maybe that would be something Sony would like to know if you don't post it how do they know what you want!

do not worrying about posting a response, it's clear your here to keep the complaint going on an on in this thread, no one here can help you on this so just keep going.

I am out of this thread/

peace

Consolidating complaints is a GREAT tool for damage control. If you know ANYTHING about business, this would be easy to understand. People will still complain everywhere but not as much, which reduces the spread of negative word of mouth. Very good idea on Sony's part for the "tell them what you want"blog.

OT: I'm pretty sure this firmware update constitutes false advertising. Regardless of the reason (preventing piracy supposedly, but it won't even do that), you can't offer a feature, advertise it, and then remove it. ToS/EULA and whatnot cannot go against consumer protection laws or trade laws. There are firms that were already preparing for a class-action lawsuit a few days, so we'll be hearing about them soon enough. 

I'm kind of shocked to see that so few people seem to understand this. Some people have said this but it is again.

Tos/EULA cannot set contractual bounds outside of the law. Period. Just because it's in the ToS does not make it legal.

I also don't care for the feature, but it's gross that a company can remove an advertised feature, and people cheer them for it. 

 

but here is the POINT people could still refuse the update.

yes that make's it where you loose the majority of it's function's , but you would still be able to keep Linux.

Sony did not want Mod chipped PS3 access to the PSN. and It may still happen, but atleast they did something for their share holder's.

you cannot tell me share holder's would not have wanted Sony to do something anything to prevent this.

the point is if Geohot would have just used linux and not used a board shocker and than showed everyone how to do this, this pretty much allowed people to get the first step's of a Mod chip on the PS3. if he would have just stuck to Linux this would never of happened.

at this point , while I like Linux, the hacking community did not have to go to the route that they know full well would lead to Piracy.

Saying you don't condone Piracy , but yet show other people in great length how you did it and posting it across the internet is exactly like what happened to a certain book that got banned EVEN THOUIGH COPY'S ARE STILL FLOATING you may have heard of it the :

Anarchist Cook Book

THE POINT BEING Geohot may not condone Piracy, but he knew full well that what he would when released to the public would indeed lead to it, not only that but it would help Pirates not hinder them, he did not care about his effect it would have on Piracy.

Sony took what action they needed to remove a security Risk.

many People my not like it, but anyone can see that when people already had ideas for Mod chip's and GEOHOT's method already was used to Mod the PS3 already you could understand why Sony did this.

like I stated Geohot could have used Linux to make HomeBrew without modding the hardware, but Geohot decided to do so and release his Hack, Sony mostlike did this in response to the Mod Chip bypass more than just doing this out of spite. but it's not like the Hacker's had to do this, He even stated this would lead to playing backup's of playstation 3 software.