Kasz216 said:
mirgro said:
Kasz216 said:
I'd say the big difference.
Mainly, the US gets attacked, the US invades Afghanistan. US invades Iraq, plans to invade Iran.
Russia invades Chechnya, Russia deports a bunch of the people which kills about 1/4th of them. Get their independence when the USSR falls. Russia invades them again. Russia gets attacked.
Not that innoncent people deserve to be killed by terrorists but...
I'd hardly say the two comparisons are comprable.
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Missing a few steps there.
Also, the US is across the ocean meanwhile Russia is right next to everyone else. It is much harder to hit America from the Middle East than RUssia. If the US was where Russia is right now, there'd be a lot more bombs going kaboom, and people dying in the US, from all sorts of nations in the Middle East.
I can hardly say that you can accurately compare the two of them at all. The US has gotten so much benefit from the fact that they are ahrd to reach that it's not even funny.
P.S. America is MUCH worse, since you brought up Native Americans. The comparable to what American did to the Native Americans would be for Russia to roll the tanks in Chechnya and kill and rape all men, women, and children. Then to the few thousand that somehow did not die, are set on foot to the Gulags in Siberia. So don't even start. The US is far worse than Russia when it comes to this sort of thing.
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Being "hard to reach" is irrelevent when you've provoked people into it.
Also the Native American issue really wasn't any worse. The Trail of Tears, the worst case was roughly analgous to the Cechians movement... which about 25% of those people dieing just like the Cechian movement.
The largest difference was that the Native Americans were resigned to losing after that and didn't put up much resistance after the initial problemsunlike the Cechyians. That and the US eventually realized what it did was horrible, gave the Native Amreicans self rule and benefits in the hopes it would begin to make up for what it did.
While anything Russia does is because it's hands are forced, they screw with their local politics and even send troops in to mess things up and kill people.
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Th Trail of Tears was the worst case, after total genocide. As fas as I know, Chechens still have an area they call home as well as a pretty sizeable population.
Until Russia kills off all but some thousands, then we can start talking US. Until then the US should really just shut up about this issue since it's really not the one to talk.
