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rocketpig said:
Rath said:
rocketpig said:
Rath said:
Manus is right about overthrowing a democratic government. The government in power is the government elected by the people. Why? Because you're overthrowing a majority government for a minority ideal - otherwise you'd be able to vote in the government that you want.

Essentially you would become the tyrants ruling the majority which I'm fairly sure isn't what the writers of your constitution had in mind - I think they were more concerned with overthrowing tyrants.

That is not entirely true. There are plenty of examples of a majority-ruled government oppressing the minority so severely that drastic measures must be taken, the extreme form being a coup. You don't even have to look far to see examples of it (eg. slavery in the US).

There are plenty of reasons to overthrow a Democracy, just less reasons than most other forms of government.

However due to your civil rights (which interestingly weren't all originally in the constitution) tyranny by majority is nearly impossible.

Tell that to homosexuals. It's not impossible at all. I'm not advocating an overthrow of the US government, I'm only arguing that there can be reasons to overthrow a democracy.

Manus made the argument that there is never a reason to overthrow a democracy. I listed a reason why he was wrong. The US government and its civil rights laws really have nothing to do with it.


Yeah, it's funny in most states it's actually perfectly legal to fire someone because they're gay. They can sue you, ask you why you fired them in open court. You can say "They're gay" case dismissed.