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Mazty on 29 March 2010
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Khuutra said:
Mazty said:
Khuutra said:

Wii Fit, Mario Kart, and many of the sports games (Wii Sport Resort in particular) are very fun, accessible, high-quality games that appeal to people with a wid range of value sets. Yes, people bu ythe Wii because of its software.

You're wrong. "A bit of fun" doesn't build up the kind of word of mouth necessary to sustain the kind of sales the Wii has had for the past three years.

So these games are high quality even though the pad isnt 1:1 and has a delay of 180ms, while having hideously dated AI and graphics?

Which part of the above screams quality...?

And yes it does. A bit of fun and something to keep the kids quiet, whilst being fashionable does produce sales. Fact is its seriously weaker in everyway than the other two consoles, let alone PC. Therefore in comparison the gaming quality on it is far worse than other consolesm the only advantage of the wii being the motion pad, which isn't all that good anyway (lag etc).

If you can tell me how the wii is high quality and would appeal to a veteran gamer, i'll have to rethink my stance on the wii. But from every game i've played on it, it doesn't come close to games of the same genre on other consoles, with possibly one or two exceptions. ANd then when you take media playback into acount, the wii is selling purely on the pad, not the quality of games (let's remeber where the term shovelware came from).

It's quality because of its production values, ease of use, robust design, and generally ahving you pantomime fun things to play. Most people do not give a shit about the things you're describing - I myself didn't really notice the input lag in Wii Sports Resort, and I have a feeling that most others don't either. So, yes. They're still very high quality, very fun, and highly accessible.

There is no single absolute metric of quality when it comes to software, and considering that its software is outselling either of the other two platforms, its software has to b appealing. Otherwise it wouldn't sell.

All right, I'll play this game with you, but we're going to take it slow and start far away from the Wii question. I'm building up to a point here.

Could you name me a game that a lot of people like - on the 360 or PS3, if you would, and make it "hardcore" - that you do not like? Anything that doesn't blow your skirt up.

I'll tell you who do care about graphics, AI etc. Gamers, ergo wii owners and people who claim it is a good 'proper' gaming platform don't know the first thing about gaming.

If you can't notice a 10+ fps lag, then wow, may want to get a doctor to have a look at that. The games are fun and accessible, but so is a ball pool. It's fun for a short time, but a lot of people grow out of it, and I myself, as do many other gamers, feel that the wii offers very little challenge and in most genres is a total step backward to out dated gaming (rail shooters, 2D platforms) when the expected quality of games has pasted those type of games.

Your grammer is a bit sketchy on your last sentece but I'm guessing you mean can I name you a hardcore game I do not like?

If so yes I can. Halo 3, Ratchet and Clank, Borderlands, Fifa and PES. Personally Halo 3 for me was not anything new so I wasn't keen on it. I'm not a fan of the R&C platforming genre, Borderlands was medicore in my view, and I've never understood the want to play football games. Plus I hated MW2, but note I dislike Halo 3 and MW2 for somewhat the same reasons as I dislike Wii games - both games felt a step backwards, or not a step foward for the genre. Could pick out many more games but as the user base for MW2 and Halo 3 are so large, hope this is the sort of reply your were aiming for.