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vaio said:
Mazty said:
Khuutra said:
Mazty said:
Khuutra said:

It's not the controller. It's the software.

All people who play games follow the software.

Oh right....People bought the wii because of the high quality games....

So what about wii fit, or Mario Karts (steering wheel), or the huge variety of sports games?

Don't kid yourself. The wii's selling point is the controller because it's a "bit of fun", not that the wii offers good gaming in relation to the rest of the gaming market.

Wii Fit, Mario Kart, and many of the sports games (Wii Sport Resort in particular) are very fun, accessible, high-quality games that appeal to people with a wid range of value sets. Yes, people bu ythe Wii because of its software.

You're wrong. "A bit of fun" doesn't build up the kind of word of mouth necessary to sustain the kind of sales the Wii has had for the past three years.

So these games are high quality even though the pad isnt 1:1 and has a delay of 180ms, while having hideously dated AI and graphics?

Which part of the above screams quality...?

And yes it does. A bit of fun and something to keep the kids quiet, whilst being fashionable does produce sales. Fact is its seriously weaker in everyway than the other two consoles, let alone PC. Therefore in comparison the gaming quality on it is far worse than other consolesm the only advantage of the wii being the motion pad, which isn't all that good anyway (lag etc).

If you can tell me how the wii is high quality and would appeal to a veteran gamer, i'll have to rethink my stance on the wii. But from every game i've played on it, it doesn't come close to games of the same genre on other consoles, with possibly one or two exceptions. ANd then when you take media playback into acount, the wii is selling purely on the pad, not the quality of games (let's remeber where the term shovelware came from).

I am a veteran gamer and had hd console before I had a Wii and to me the wii offers by far the best gaming experience, the graphics are not the best but good enough the lag you are talking about is not noticable at all.

The only thing that is missing on the Wii is the 3rd party AAA support except for that the Wii is superior in every aspect to me.

I seriously doubt you could be a skilled veteran gamer if you think a lag of roughly 10+ fps isn't noticable.

180ms is massive. If that was ping, people would be screaming about how bad it was. What the wii is missing for me is everything. It can't do media playback and the games offer very little challange and are exceptionally un-immersive due to the poor controls (inherent problem with the wii) and the awful graphics. Party games are fine, but that's to gaming what modern art would be to the Masters.