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vaio said:

If theese gamers that played ps2 were concerned with the best graphics they would have bough Gamecube or xbox instead and the wii´s capabilities are well beyond both the xbox and Gamecube.

This shows us that the mainstream gamer is interested in graphical leaps but not as big as the 360 or PS3 and not at the expence of gameplay.

When Nintendo releases their next console they will have to make a graphical leap that is big enough for them to care but not so big they don´t care and see to it that the gameplay inovations continue in the aspect of gameplay thats were hdconsoles have failed the greatest this gen and the graphical leap was to big for the mainstream gamer to care.

Thats a stupid comparison as the graphics of last gen were very similar. This gen the wii is far, far behind the other two consoles and not the cheapest, meaning that wii owners clearly care about the controller rather than graphics. If they cared about a responsive controller or graphics, they'd have got another console.

Therefore what can nintendo bring to the table, other than something shy of VR, to entice these people into getting another console? Clearly they don't want better hardware so that instantly breaks the trend of better graphics etc for a new console.

Granted HD consoles haven't been original, but I hardly think a console that sells on the premiss of good advertising, hideous graphics and a very poor motion controller (180ms lag, not 1:1) is hardly worthy of praise. Nintendo's marketting department yes, the wii itself, hardly.