mirgro said:
twesterm said:
mirgro said:
twesterm said:
How is socializing forced on you in other countries?
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The mix of, fewer cars, better transportation systems that's cheaper than cars, more concentrated populations, and fewer people out in the suburbs leads to many people having to walk to work, the place they will eat, or anywhere they need to go really. There are thousands of people out on the streets of any city you point on the map in Europe, meanwhile streets outside of select few areas in the US are devoid of any life, everyone is in their car. Even if people do go to work in their cars, and are willing to put up wih he inadequade streets which are inadequate for the amount of cars on them, they still need to eat. People don't use their cars to find food since you don't have huge parking lots where hundreds of cars can park. You meet people on the street just getting food.
I cannot think of a single way that I can actively use to not meet people and socialize, for better or for worse, in a European city. Meanwhile if I am as passive about socializing in the US, ouside of the before mentioned handful of cities, then I will just not meet people outside of work.
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You're assuming people want to talk to you and most people don't though. Even in your example of New York you sure as fuck don't want to talk to random people on the street or subway.
Whatever the case, I can be just as antisocial on the bus as I am in my own car. Just because you're walking to work doesn't mean you're social because only a crazy person talks to every person they see on the street.
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Maybe it was just me, but when I had to drive to places in my car I met a total of 0 people during those times in a year, whether it was going to work or getting food or whatever.
Meawhile when I had to walk places, I met 2 people in the same amount of time in Madrid. That's 2 more peopla I know in about a year just by walking places instead of a car. That's not counting acquintances or people to have a good conversation with that I have met in eateries and bars that are all over the place in cities in Europe, and far less common in the US.
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But you met people because you were actively trying to meet people, not because you were forced to.
You may walk down a street and meet two people but someone else may walk down the same exact street and meet zero because they aren't trying to meet people. It really doesn't matter where you are.
